Caterpillars Prove Evolution

[kevinmaynard]

I can't believe no one has thought of this before. I hear deniers claim if evolution is true why don't we see things evolve into other things. Well caterpillars sure do. They evolve into butterflies. We can see this evolution with our own eyes. They change from one animal to a totally new animal. Amazing.

Not only that sometimes because of evolutionary pressure they don't even change into butterflies but into moths.

Sometimes they stay caterpillars forever.

Science is amazing and caterpillars prove evolution.

 

[Gottservant]

Catepillars prove the bivalence of DNA, not that random mutations can create anything.

You're looking for evidence, ask yourself, why don't butterflies just stay butterflies, if Evolution is true?

 

[kevinmaynard]

Catepillars prove the bivalence of DNA, not that random mutations can create anything.

You're looking for evidence, ask yourself, why don't butterflies just stay butterflies, if Evolution is true?

Evolution is true because butterflies prove that animals do indeed turn into other animals. It is random because not all caterpillars turn into butterflies. Some turn into moths. Some don't mutate at all. See random.

 

[Gottservant]

You didn't answer the question.

Obviously one thing or the other is more evolved and you believe in survival of the fittest, so which should butterflies be: butterflies or catepillars?

 

[Gottservant]

Evolution is true because butterflies prove that animals do indeed turn into other animals. It is random because not all caterpillars turn into butterflies. Some turn into moths. Some don't mutate at all. See random.

And another thing, butterflies or moths is hardly random.

You are looking for difference that isn't there.

 

[AV1611VET]

I can't believe no one has thought of this before.

Here you go, newbie.

But caterpillars can turn into butterflies and tadpoles can turn into frogs?

 

[kevinmaynard]

You didn't answer the question.

Obviously one thing or the other is more evolved and you believe in survival of the fittest, so which should butterflies be: butterflies or catepillars?

Well that depends on where they live of course. If caterpillars are more suited to live somewhere they will be caterpillars. Say in places with high winds that will kill butterflies. In other places they will be butterflies. Like places where they have to fly to get food.

That is why you see butterflies on the side of the road cause they have to fly over cars and caterpillars are too slow and get killed by cars. Or see butterflies on mountains cause caterpillars can't climb mountains.

We see caterpillars in bushes because butterflies would get eaten by stuff or picked up by kids who think they are pretty.

 

[kevinmaynard]

And another thing, butterflies or moths is hardly random.

You are looking for difference that isn't there.

They are totally random. Butterflies and Moths can't breed with each other, but yet they both come from caterpillars. Evolution is amazing, and totally proved by caterpillars.

 

[kevinmaynard]

Here you go, newbie.

See evolution is proved.

 

[AV1611VET]

See evolution is proved.

Well, there's gotta be some explanation why it doesn't.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Though evolution is correct caterpillars due not "prove" it through metamorphism.

That is not an evolutionary change in the animal, so how does it prove evolution? Its DNA is the same before as afterwards.

It is a bad argument and should be forgotten. But don't worry, just because your argument is wrong it does not mean the evolution is wrong.

 

[kevinmaynard]

Well, there's gotta be some explanation why it doesn't.

Why it doesn't what. Doesn't evolve? Caterpillars do evolve they evolve into at least two things and maybe more.

 

[CabVet]

 

[kevinmaynard]

It sure is real life. Caterpillars are real and so are butterflies and moths. Evolution is amazing.

 

[Gottservant]

Well that depends on where they live of course. If caterpillars are more suited to live somewhere they will be caterpillars. Say in places with high winds that will kill butterflies. In other places they will be butterflies. Like places where they have to fly to get food.

That is why you see butterflies on the side of the road cause they have to fly over cars and caterpillars are too slow and get killed by cars. Or see butterflies on mountains cause caterpillars can't climb mountains.

We see caterpillars in bushes because butterflies would get eaten by stuff or picked up by kids who think they are pretty.

What you said is not what the evidence is: the evidence is that caterpillars become butterflies no matter what their environment is. One does not beat the other. They do not compete with themselves.

 

[Freodin]

Poe's Law in effect.

I just can't decide who of the two main participants here is the undercover agent trying to make the other side look weird.

Perhaps both are.

Or none.

Poe's Law in effect...

 

[Shemjaza]

It sure is real life. Caterpillars are real and so are butterflies and moths. Evolution is amazing.

While I agree that evolution is amazing, caterpillars turning into butterflies is not evolution. It's not two different creatures it's a single creature with a interesting ability to radically change shape as it reaches adulthood. Its genetics is unchanged.

If you want something even weirder check out how Locusts and Grasshoppers transform into one another when food is plentiful or scarce.

 

[TillICollapse]

If you want something even weirder check out how Locusts and Grasshoppers transform into one another when food is plentiful or scarce.

Is this similar to how Target people transform into Walmart people ?

 

[AV1611VET]

Why it doesn't what. Doesn't evolve? Caterpillars do evolve they evolve into at least two things and maybe more.

But it's still a caterpillar isn't it?

A caterpillar with wings?

 

[kevinmaynard]

What you said is not what the evidence is: the evidence is that caterpillars become butterflies no matter what their environment is. One does not beat the other. They do not compete with themselves.

No true. Some become moths some don't become anything. Some become neither. It depends on where they live. Evolution proved true.