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MariaRegina

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However, if the birth of the kittens causes medical damage to the momma or even kills the momma, in the case of a young cat getting pregnant on her first heat, which is more important, the life of the kittens or the life of the momma when you know it could have been prevented. No, abortions do not cause cancer in cats. Once the cat has been spayed, it no longer produces estrogen, which is what feeds breast cancer. If the animal has the genes for breast cancer, nothing we do or not do will prevent the cancer. I worked as a vet tech for 4 years. I never once saw a case of breast cancer in a dog or cat that had been spayed.

Thanks, kami.

This is why I posed this question as there is a scientific link between abortions and breast cancer, so I wanted to also know if that link existed with cats and dogs.

However, many spayed and neutered cats do have a problem with being overweight, don't they? I mean, they are not running around seeking the opposite sex. And do not fat cells also produce estrogen? Research says yes. And people and animals with excess fat cells do show a tendency to have a shortened lifespan due to diabetes and heart problems.
 
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i have a cat and a dog. my cat (Tommy) chases the dog (Daphne) around and a couple of times scratched Daphne's face and nose. Daphne loved Tommy but Tommy didn't like Daphne.

also when Daphne is outside she might see a bird or squirrel, she barks at it, but then it goes away.
 
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Thanks, kami.

This is why I posed this question as there is a scientific link between abortions and breast cancer, so I wanted to also know if that link existed with cats and dogs.

However, many spayed and neutered cats do have a problem with being overweight, don't they? I mean, they are not running around seeking the opposite sex.

Running around, looking for a mate has no impact on weight. House cats are only fat if their owners over feed them. Pet dogs are only fat if their owners don't take them for needed walks. The only reason a spayed or neutered cat or dog would be overfat is due to the owner's treatment. Fat cells do not produce estrogen in an animal that no longer has the sexual organs to produce estrogen. Fat cells hold estrogen, not produce it. Unlike a human hysterectomy, the spay procedure removes all sexual reproductive organs.
 
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Estrogen is also found in our food chain and in the urine of women who are taking contraceptives. So, it is not only the estrogen which certain fat cells do produce (especially those found in the abdomen) but also those synthetic estrogens found in plasticides and contraceptives which are wrecking havoc all over the world.

I would like to hear from a medical doctor or endocrinologist about this. I do have a degree in Speech Language Pathology, which is a medical profession, as SLPs do work in hospitals.

All of these estrogens being dumped into our sewer systems and then out into our rivers and oceans are having a horrific effect on the world's ecosystem producing three eyed frogs and other deformities.

The lower animals are more visibly affected than humans, but the effect is also seen in humans, who are generally more infertile than in past centuries. The fertility rate is much reduced now. In 1960, infertile couples were 1/5 but now as many as 1/3 couples are infertile.
 
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My mom and step-dad had a male manx named Wild Thing (he lived up to it) who was pretty large and very dominant in the neighborhood. He would frequently patrol the neighborhood and "tune up" any other cats that didn't steer clear of him. They had him cut and he became pretty docile and lost the will to be dominant. He fattened up some but I think it was mostly because he didn't roam as much surveying his turf.
 
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ve·he·ment

1.zealous; ardent; impassioned

Your posts in this thread clearly demonstrate vehemence. It's not an ugly word so please don't take offense as none was intended when I used it.

As for that last part, I find it very ironic. You frequently misunderstand, jump to conclusions and point fingers so please don't take too much exception when others do it.
Don't worry about any more posts of mine jumping to conclusions or anything else you want to accuse me of because I am going back to being silent and not posting on here any more. Believe of me as you like.
 
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