Cast out that bipolar demon

[didi768]

Not everything is a demon infestation. Wish it were that easy.

 

[Kristin E]

Some bipolar is demonic and some is a real mental illness, but both can be cured by God just gotta have faith.
I've found that positive faith confession has truly saved me from my mental illnesses.

 

[quietpraiyze]

Some bipolar is demonic and some is a real mental illness, but both can be cured by God just gotta have faith. I've found that positive faith confession has truly saved me from my mental illnesses.

How do YOU know which bipolar is demonic and which is real mental illness? What did YOU do for the person that YOU say was demonic? What mental illness did YOU have? Were you demon possessed? Were you documented by a psychiatrist or other mental health professional? How much faith is "enough"? How do you measure that? What are you really saying about those of us who haven't been healed?

 

[Kristin E]

How do YOU know which bipolar is demonic and which is real mental illness? What did YOU do for the person that YOU say was demonic? What mental illness did YOU have? Were you demon possessed? Were you documented by a psychiatrist or other mental health professional? How much faith is "enough"? How do you measure that? What are you really saying about those of us who haven't been healed?

It doesn't matter what it is, whether it's mental, physical, demonic, whatever it is God can fix it.
What did I do? You mean what can God do? Well the person can choose to cast their own demon out or get a exorcist, but either way it's God who does it.
What mental illness did I have? I still have some that try to come on me, but I never give them entry and I cast them out.
I was diagnosed with many things, but to name a few - ODD, OCD, ADHD, Schizophrenia, Bi-Polar, Social Anxiety, GAD, Anxiety, Panic Disorder, Depression, and so forth.
In the end it does not matter what I was diagnosed with, it cannot stay. God is bigger than any junk the devil tries to throw at me, you, or anyone else.
Was I demon possessed? Possibly, but more likely demonically oppressed.
Was I documented by a mental health professional? I have seen therapists, and psychologists since I was 10-21 I am now 25, but NONE cured me.
All they did was put me on meds, take me off, and switch me on more, and more, and more.... an endless cycle.
How much faith is enough? A size of a mustard seed.
How do I measure that? The Bible already did - the size of a mustard seed.
What do I have to say to those who are not healed? I would implore them to read Kenneth Hagins - The Believers Authority. Stand on the Word of God.
I don't have an answer why some are healed, and others are not, I never said anything about what you are thinking I said... Who am I to say one lacks faith?
All I know is, Jesus loves us, and if we seek Him and His will, which is for us to be healed then with just the right amount of faith (the size of a mustard seed) then we shall be healed.

Now let me ask you some questions since you've asked me some...
Do you believe God can deliver and heal you from any and all afflictions?
Do you believe it's Gods will for you to be healed?
Do you believe God wants His children well, or going through earthly hell???
Was the Bible lying when the Bible said that By Jesus' stripes YOU were healed?
And lastly are you suffering from something that is making you feel this way?
It seems that I have indirectly struck a nerve, if you are going through any affliction seek Christ, don't quench the Holy Spirit.

 

[quietpraiyze]

It does matter when you say a born again Christian has demons and you have no proof of that whatsoever. It matters to the person you do that to and the people that love that person. Yes that happened to me and I can't ever begin to tell you how I suffered at the hands of people who said they were Christians. To this day I've never really found the words to describe what I went through. Deliverance came for me sitting in a college classroom studying the brain and mental illness. For the first time in my life I understood and I never looked back. See my bible tells me that ALL demons are subject to the authority of Christ, not some but ALL. I don't believe that a Born Again Christian can be demon possessed. We can be oppressed but NOT possessed. If it's demonic it has to go BUT if it's not then it's wrong and hurtful to those involved to keep asserting something that's not true. Mental illness is the only illness I've seen people who say they're Christians constantly insist it's demonic. Every other illness gets a pass but not mental illness. Why is that? Even the Word made a distinction between the “lunatic” and the possessed.

Whatever you want to say about healing/believing/faith, I've already been through it. I have years (and I do mean years) of Pentecostal/WOF experience and I am glad to say that I am free of that. I know all the jargon/language and I'm truly not interested. Some of the stuff I was dealing with was nothing more than idolatry, twisted Scriptures, and false doctrine. People worshiping healing instead of the Healer. Thank God for His healing and deliverance. No I'm not physically healed but God got me away from that stuff and I am satisfied in pursuing Christ for who He is. So I'm not worried about being physically healed. I will eventually get that either on this side or the other.

What bothers me is when people who say they're Christian go after those of us who are mentally ill and start ascribing demons to us. You have no ideal how it feels to have our faith attacked in that kind of way. You really don't know but it is evil and I know you may not understand what I just said. I can understand sharing your testimony in God. I know I rejoice in what God has done for you but has anybody come back to you and said, “thank you for telling me I had demons”? Have you increased somebody's faith by doing that? Jesus didn't tell people they had demons. He just delivered them. I don't see the love, kindness, and caring for those of us who are afflicted with mental illness by so many who say they're Christians. All I've seen from the majority is an accusation of the demonic. So if there was a nerve struck, that would be it. The lack of compassion and people thinking they can say anything about us and it's okay when it's not. We're real people who are real Born Again Believers and our faith stands as tall as yours does.

 

[Kristin E]

It does matter when you say a born again Christian has demons and you have no proof of that whatsoever. It matters to the person you do that to and the people that love that person. Yes that happened to me and I can't ever begin to tell you how I suffered at the hands of people who said they were Christians. To this day I've never really found the words to describe what I went through. Deliverance came for me sitting in a college classroom studying the brain and mental illness. For the first time in my life I understood and I never looked back. See my bible tells me that ALL demons are subject to the authority of Christ, not some but ALL. I don't believe that a Born Again Christian can be demon possessed. We can be oppressed but NOT possessed. If it's demonic it has to go BUT if it's not then it's wrong and hurtful to those involved to keep asserting something that's not true. Mental illness is the only illness I've seen people who say they're Christians constantly insist it's demonic. Every other illness gets a pass but not mental illness. Why is that? Even the Word made a distinction between the “lunatic” and the possessed.

Whatever you want to say about healing/believing/faith, I've already been through it. I have years (and I do mean years) of Pentecostal/WOF experience and I am glad to say that I am free of that. I know all the jargon/language and I'm truly not interested. Some of the stuff I was dealing with was nothing more than idolatry, twisted Scriptures, and false doctrine. People worshiping healing instead of the Healer. Thank God for His healing and deliverance. No I'm not physically healed but God got me away from that stuff and I am satisfied in pursuing Christ for who He is. So I'm not worried about being physically healed. I will eventually get that either on this side or the other.

What bothers me is when people who say they're Christian go after those of us who are mentally ill and start ascribing demons to us. You have no ideal how it feels to have our faith attacked in that kind of way. You really don't know but it is evil and I know you may not understand what I just said. I can understand sharing your testimony in God. I know I rejoice in what God has done for you but has anybody come back to you and said, “thank you for telling me I had demons”? Have you increased somebody's faith by doing that? Jesus didn't tell people they had demons. He just delivered them. I don't see the love, kindness, and caring for those of us who are afflicted with mental illness by so many who say they're Christians. All I've seen from the majority is an accusation of the demonic. So if there was a nerve struck, that would be it. The lack of compassion and people thinking they can say anything about us and it's okay when it's not. We're real people who are real Born Again Believers and our faith stands as tall as yours does.

I never said you lacked faith did I? but from what you've posted it appears you sorta do... You even admitted you gave up the faith in healing for yourself.
I don't lack compassion, my original post clearly stated that SOME mental illness is demonic and some is not.
If you choose to believe Christians cannot be possessed that's okay, but I beg to differ.

I'm not WOF or Pentecostal, Charismatic, whatever, I am Word of GOD. Jesus said by HIS stripes you WERE healed, that's up to you to accept it or not though.

I understand that mental illnesses won't always go away over night, some times they will go away quick, but eventually they will. go away.
I still have times where my anxiety peaks and I start to have panic attacks, but I stand on the Word and fight the devil and it goes away.
People are different, and sometimes there are forces that are not seen that hinder people from their healing too, but to blame God isn't right.

If you think I am being rude or mean, I am sorry you feel that way, but as a Christian I have to stand on Gods Word. His Word says He wants you whole.

 

[quietpraiyze]

I'm not surprised by your response or that you would accuse my faith. That's what you've been saying all along isn't it? Those of us who aren't healed don't have faith...like you. You can believe what you want. You have to live your words all your life. Your words aren't necessarily God's Word. My resolve is to follow Christ regardless. Like I said I will be healed either on this side or the other. I have God's love, peace, and assurance, so I'm not worried about it. My walk is by faith. I've learned a lot and I don't think God would have it any other way for me. But I do stand up when people like yourself refer to the mentally ill as demonic because some aren't able to fight for themselves right now and I know how that is. Having someone call them that can send them over the edge, suicidal, and/or damage their faith in such a way that they can't ever heal and I don't want that for them. Like I said I rejoice in your healing but being rude or mean has nothing to do with standing on God's Word. That's just you. There are a lot of us here who fight the good fight of Faith everyday. Everyday we not only stand on God's Word but we live it because we love Him and we don't have to tear others down to do it. So as far as standing on God's Word goes, you're not the only one.

 

[Kristin E]

I'm not surprised by your response or that you would accuse my faith. That's what you've been saying all along isn't it? Those of us who aren't healed don't have faith...like you. You can believe what you want. You have to live your words all your life. Your words aren't necessarily God's Word. My resolve is to follow Christ regardless. Like I said I will be healed either on this side or the other. I have God's love, peace, and assurance, so I'm not worried about it. My walk is by faith. I've learned a lot and I don't think God would have it any other way for me. But I do stand up when people like yourself refer to the mentally ill as demonic because some aren't able to fight for themselves right now and I know how that is. Having someone call them that can send them over the edge, suicidal, and/or damage their faith in such a way that they can't ever heal and I don't want that for them. Like I said I rejoice in your healing but being rude or mean has nothing to do with standing on God's Word. That's just you. There are a lot of us here who fight the good fight of Faith everyday. Everyday we not only stand on God's Word but we live it because we love Him and we don't have to tear others down to do it. So as far as standing on God's Word goes, you're not the only one.

It sounds like your angry and accusative towards me, why don't you turn that anger around and aim it towards the devil... After all it was him who caused the mess you're in today, because it sure wasn't God.

Everything good comes from God, and everything bad comes from the devil. Is mental disorders not bad? They are bad, so that would entail that they come from the devil.

Do I think you lack faith? Yes, but only because you yourself admitted you gave up faith in Jesus and His healing powers in your life. Did I say those who are not healed right away lack faith, nope sure didn't. All one needs is faith the size of a mustard seed.

If speaking Gods true divine Word sends a man over the edge, I don't see how... The only thing that would send anyone over the edge is the devil and his stupid lies.

I never said ALL mental disorders are demonic, some are, but again ALLLLLLL mental disorders come from the devil whether demonic in nature or not, because God sure didn't make mental disorders. When God created the Earth He blessed it and called it GOOD.

 

[quietpraiyze]

Excuse me but I'm not the one who is angry here as I see you've taken to lying about my faith, but if saying those things make you feel good – If that's how you “stand” then by all means knock yourself out hahahaha! Also it's my understanding of the Word that illness is a consequence of the “fall” of humankind due to the disobedience of Adam & Eve in the garden of Eden. It's becoming quite apparent that you may have some other kind of belief system that I don't care to know about.

Life and death is in the tongue and we are all responsible for the things we say and how we affect the lives of others. You can't blame the devil for the things that come out of your mouth (fingertips). You can call a mentally ill person demonic and you can hurt them in ways that you are unwilling to admit to but YOU did that and no one else. You say “some” mental illness is demonic but which ones? Why can't you define that? Are some cancer patients demonic? How about diabetics? The list goes on and on. How many of those illnesses are demonic? Can you give me a list?

It's apparent that you don't have compassion for the mentally ill. You like so many others just like to making accusations. I don't think age has anything to do with it. I'm 53 and I know and have met some young people even younger than you who understand you don't mistreat especially mentally ill people because they are vulnerable. I knew that as a child but I see that's not the case with you though. You're not justified because you say God. If God's love (which for me includes His Truth and His Holiness) isn't in it, it's not God.

 

[Kristin E]

Excuse me but I'm not the one who is angry here as I see you've taken to lying about my faith, but if saying those things make you feel good – If that's how you “stand” then by all means knock yourself out hahahaha! Also it's my understanding of the Word that illness is a consequence of the “fall” of humankind due to the disobedience of Adam & Eve in the garden of Eden. It's becoming quite apparent that you may have some other kind of belief system that I don't care to know about.

Life and death is in the tongue and we are all responsible for the things we say and how we affect the lives of others. You can't blame the devil for the things that come out of your mouth (fingertips). You can call a mentally ill person demonic and you can hurt them in ways that you are unwilling to admit to but YOU did that and no one else. You say “some” mental illness is demonic but which ones? Why can't you define that? Are some cancer patients demonic? How about diabetics? The list goes on and on. How many of those illnesses are demonic? Can you give me a list?

It's apparent that you don't have compassion for the mentally ill. You like so many others just like to making accusations. I don't think age has anything to do with it. I'm 53 and I know and have met some young people even younger than you who understand you don't mistreat especially mentally ill people because they are vulnerable. I knew that as a child but I see that's not the case with you though. You're not justified because you say God. If God's love (which for me includes His Truth and His Holiness) isn't in it, it's not God.

Sounds like you're making excuse AND that's your problem.

ALL sickness and disease comes from hell, because it sure don't come from God.

I really don't care if you like my beliefs, but its biblical.

 

[quietpraiyze]

Sounds like you're making excuse AND that's your problem.

ALL sickness and disease comes from hell, because it sure don't come from God.

I really don't care if you like my beliefs, but its biblical.

Of course this would be your response. I wouldn't expect anything less. Reading and comprehension is fundamental...smh.

 

[Kristin E]

Of course this would be your response. I wouldn't expect anything less. Reading and comprehension is fundamental...smh.

Keep shaking that head of yours while you go on living in that sickness of yours

 

[quietpraiyze]

Keep shaking that head of yours while you go on living in that sickness of yours

You go ahead and keep on with your vitriol dear...yeah uh huh...knock yourself out!

 

[Goodbook]

Chill out.

I think..recognising the problem is good and yes it is hurtful that some say bipolar is demonic but you have to look at it this way. It is not YOU that is bipolar. That is just a symptom of demon oppression. I know cos Ive had demons cast out of me, and Im a christian.

You need to get mad at the devil, not the person the devil is trying to take.

I would never go round saying 'i am bipolar'. I refuse that label. I do tell others that yes i have suffered from bipolar and experienced it. Not that I AM. I am a christian.

Uktimately the cause is satan, which we have to take responsibility for either inviting demons in through sin in our lives or being sinned against. Thus, knowing how the enemy got in or oppressed us we can take steps to remedy it. We cannot refuse to repent just so we can go on living self destructively. Kick that demon to the curb.

Everything else that goes along with it, all the havoc wrecked in our body, can then be healed.
Then renew your mind with the .word of God. It is not meanind we lack faith, just the knowledge on how to be free. All of us long to be free.

 

[quietpraiyze]

@Goodbook
It is one thing for you to talk about your experience but please refrain from telling me anything about my experience or what I should do according to you. I know who I am and more importantly Whose I am. Whatever your experience was or is is yours. Please don't project onto me or others and respect that every person who suffers with bipolar has their own journey. You don't have to like it or agree with it but no one is asking you to. This is not the Advice Forum and I am not seeking your advice or counsel on ANYTHING. You keep that. Whether you understand this or not some things you said and others have said are hurtful because you just make assumptions and people like you never HEAR. Your experience isn't everybody else's experience. You don't know what I or others have been through and you just keep on with it like you know everybody's health but you don't. So just STOP. My experience is not up for debate or discussion with you. I don't care what you think about me. I don't want you Goodbook posting to my post in the Bipolar Forum period. Please respect that.

 

[godsgraceispatient]

Bipolar disorder/disease is a medical illness. When someone has, for example, cancer, they may pray that they be delivered from the disease. Some people are completely healed, some people go into remission, and some die from cancer. Of course it is possible to be completely healed from bipolar disorder and the imbalances that cause its symptoms, but it is also possibly to live with bipolar disorder and serve God.

Not being healed is not due to a "lack of faith." God uses pain and suffering, our problems and difficult things in our lives, including illnesses, to bring us closer to Him. If I were not bipolar, would I be seeking after God so hard every day? I don't know. I do know that bipolar disorder is a serious medical illness.

There are instances where depression or illness can be the result of demonic possession or oppression, but I agree with those who have said that demonic possession is an impossibility for a Holy-Spirit-filled Christian. The Spirit will not move over to make room for demons. A Christian may be OPPRESSED, but not POSSESSED.