Cannabalism

[Icystwolf]

The closest argument on Cannabalism, for Christians is lust..ie lust for the flesh.

But what is the main reason from the scriptures that out law this?

It's been said, that women will eat their own children, but doesn't mention eating humans, rather the context sounds more as if it talks about eating it's own flesh.

 

[Knight]

Why would you want to?????

Regardless, I think the restrictions on murder apply....

Unless, of course, you are referring to people who die of natural causes. In that case, refer to my first statement....

 

[Mekkala]

Why would you want to?????

Regardless, I think the restrictions on murder apply....

Unless, of course, you are referring to people who die of natural causes. In that case, refer to my first statement....

My take on it is that I don't know why you would want to, but as long as it doesn't involve wrongfully taking someone's life and/or rights, it's your business.

For example, I don't think that guy in Germany did anything wrong. He did something pretty disgusting, it's true, but nothing morally wrong.

 

[Knight]

My take on it is that I don't know why you would want to, but as long as it doesn't involve wrongfully taking someone's life and/or rights, it's your business.

You're presuming no surviving family members.......

For example, I don't think that guy in Germany did anything wrong. He did something pretty disgusting, it's true, but nothing morally wrong.

I don't believe I'm familiar with that situation......

 

[Mekkala]

You're presuming no surviving family members.......

Of course, if the deceased did not already make the decision to allow someone to eat his body, that permission should come from family members. However, if the deceased gave those instructions, I think that it is not morally necessary to have family permission.

I don't believe I'm familiar with that situation......

A German man recently advertised on the Internet for someone willing to be killed and eaten. Another German man answered the ad, allowed himself to be killed, and the first man ate him. I do not believe that was morally wrong, because it was his conscious choice. A dumb and rather disgusting choice, but hey... it's his body.

 

[kdet]

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Clealry the German courts disagreed with you that this man did nothing wrong.​

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Juergen B a 42-year-old Berlin citizen , is believed to have been murdered in spring 2000. Armin M a man living near the central city of Kassel has confessed to murdering and eating a fellow homosexual who volunteered to be killed in one of the most bizarre ritual murders in Germany in many years.​

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http://www.4law.co.il/cann1c.htm​

 

[Knight]

Just because he gave permission for the other guy to kill him does not make it right.... The law gives no such provision.

 

[kdet]

Exactly.

 

[Mekkala]

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Clealry the German courts disagreed with you that this man did nothing wrong.​

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Juergen B a 42-year-old Berlin citizen , is believed to have been murdered in spring 2000. Armin M a man living near the central city of Kassel has confessed to murdering and eating a fellow homosexual who volunteered to be killed in one of the most bizarre ritual murders in Germany in many years.​

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http://www.4law.co.il/cann1c.htm​

I realize they disagree. That doesn't mean they're right, necessarily.

 

[Mekkala]

Nevertheless, this is not really an issue for me, as I think cases like this are pretty rare. I'll withdraw from this discussion.

 

[Caylin]

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Clealry the German courts disagreed with you that this man did nothing wrong.​

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Juergen B a 42-year-old Berlin citizen , is believed to have been murdered in spring 2000. Armin M a man living near the central city of Kassel has confessed to murdering and eating a fellow homosexual who volunteered to be killed in one of the most bizarre ritual murders in Germany in many years.​

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http://www.4law.co.il/cann1c.htm​

Wow... thats... sick...

 

[mpshiel]

Cannibalism isn't really that rare, it is shown up at some point or another in almost every culture and used to be an important aspect of many differnt cultures particularly in the Congo, Micronesia (whose last reported use of the Dykar's was in 1982 when three bush inspectors disappeared) and the Amazon Basin. Certianly cannibalism seems to go hand in hand with exploration and nautical life. Only in the last 140 years has the taboo of cannibalism for survival been brought to the fore (though as "Alive" showed, people are still fairly lenient when survival is concerned).

Basically, if you are using the quotes from Jesus when he says, "nothing that enters the mouth can make the body unclean" as validation to say Pork is not unclean, there really can't be an Moral stance against human flesh. Now how exactly you get that human flesh is a whole different matter - and could involve many sins.

The oft reported statement about human flesh - by both Alfred Packard, the Colorado Cannibal and the Dykar Chief to Queen Victoria - is that the human breast is the sweetest meat of all.

 

[challenger]

Just because he gave permission for the other guy to kill him does not make it right.... The law gives no such provision.

An appeal to authority? From a Christian? Who would have seen that coming?

 

[challenger]

"nothing that enters the mouth can make the body unclean"...the human breast is the sweetest meat of all.

So tempted, so very very tempted, but I really shouldn't...

 

[mpshiel]

Hey, it was Jesus that starting going on to the crowd and telling them that to follow him they would have to eat his flesh and drink his blood. Soon the 5,000 became 12 and Jesus said to them, "Aren't you going too?" when Peter replied "It is a hard saying...." - so in a way, the foundation of the Christian faith is build on cannibalism - what else do you think the communion represents?

Perhaps one of the reasons Christians would have such a hard time converting cannibals - they were seen as hypocrites.

 

[kdet]

Hey, it was Jesus that starting going on to the crowd and telling them that to follow him they would have to eat his flesh and drink his blood. Soon the 5,000 became 12 and Jesus said to them, "Aren't you going too?" when Peter replied "It is a hard saying...." - so in a way, the foundation of the Christian faith is build on cannibalism - what else do you think the communion represents?

Perhaps one of the reasons Christians would have such a hard time converting cannibals - they were seen as hypocrites.

This sounds like blasphemy to me, equating cannibalism with Sacred Communion.

 

[mpshiel]

hee hee, good one. Especially since the first two hundred years of the reformation involved many bloody battles between those who believed that once the wafer and wine entered your mouth you were literally eating the flesh and drinking the blood of Christ, compared to those who believed that it was turned into the flesh and blood once it entered the stomach (those who merely believed it was symbolic like the Anababtists were turned on by everyeone).

I am not quite sure what you consider the definition of cannibalism to be but eating someones flesh and drinking thier blood in most cultures would fit that definition.

 

[Grace_of_God]

The closest argument on Cannabalism, for Christians is lust..ie lust for the flesh.

Uhhh....I think MURDER would be a pretty good argument against it!

 

[seebs]

This sounds like blasphemy to me, equating cannibalism with Sacred Communion.

A careful reading of John 6 suggests that the similarity was noticed at the time, as well.

 

[Risen Tree]

This sounds like blasphemy to me, equating cannibalism with Sacred Communion.

Christ blasphemed?