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Can we talk about ADHD... and such ?

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Is anyone else concerned about the rise of 'modern' conditions that grip lives and ensnare them in pharmaceutical dependence at great expense ?

In our country - just to get an official diagnosis for ADHD from a Psychiatrist will cost you around $2000. This is required before you get access to any med's.

Stepping back - this generation is subject to more stress than any other since WW2.

It seems the human condition trying to survive under pressure shuts down as a survival response.

These 'symptoms' are picked up by the medics and bingo another serious source of profit.

At the same time, believers have access to the redemption of the soul through the Cross, including healing and deliverance - but not many seem to access this because the modern theology has moved on from these 'archaic beliefs'.

"Confess your sins to one another and pray for one another that you may be healed" is rarely activated.

Am I the only one concerned about this ?
 

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Recently I watched an episode of The Diary of A CEO (great YouTube channel by the way) with special guest Erica Komisar. The video is entitled Child Attachment Expert: We're Stressing Newborns & It's Causing ADHD! Hidden Dangers Of Daycare!

Unfortunately I can’t link it here because the video contains profanity in the first 3 minutes. But if you’re willing to brave that, it’s worth the watch.

At about 1 hour, Komisar links ADHD to early childhood stressors. According to her, children are supposed to be with their mothers for their first three years of life. Separating them from their mother by putting them in daycare is a stressor that is harmful for them, causing the amygdala to expand to a huge size and shrink, which leaves the child to suffer a lifetime of emotional dysregulation, because their amygdala cannot regulate their stress response, which leads to ADHD symptoms. “It’s like a PTSD response.” Komisar says.

And it’s not just Komisar. I read a small book on natural treatments for A.D.D. that mentioned chamomile as treatment. Chamomile is a sedative, which knocks down anger and fear responses. I tried that because I was having trouble with focus myself, and suddenly I noticed a reduction in my trauma symptoms as well. This anecdote really pushes me to agree with Komisar’s findings: it’s all trauma.

Komisar also links this trauma to poor parenting, lack of mothers and fathers for children, and the key role of the mother in first few years of a child’s life.
 
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Most of what doctors call mental illness are spiritual issues.
The more sin, and inolvement with the darkness the more 'spiritual issues/mental illnesses'.
What is appalling is not deliverance as 'archaic beliefs' but the appalling thing, is christians are letting the devil sneakely do harm and do nothing about it, having the weapons and means through God to do so.
 
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this generation is subject to more stress than any other since WW2.
"My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness." (in 2 Corinthians 12:9)
"you will find rest for your souls" > in Matthew 11:29.
"Set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth." (Colossians 3:2)
"Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid." (in John 14:27)
"'Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.'" (Matthew 11:29)

God is almighty; so His rest is almighty against any cruel feelings and emotions which would dominate us.

"Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you." (James 4:7)

"Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, and evil speaking be put away from you, with all malice. And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God in Christ forgave you." (Ephesians 4:31-32)

From this, I see how God who is almighty easily puts away what is negative and cruel. And He changes us into family caring and sharing with Him and each other in His love. And He has us forgiving "even as" He has forgiven us.

So . . . you can see what part of the problem can be. Ones are not generously forgiving, "even as God" in us shares with us how He is and how He forgives. But ones are isolated with themselves so they can be easy targets.

But with God and as His family together with each other, we grow to be strong against any and all emotional trouble. But in our own self-help stuff, we can fail and suffer, being isolated with our problems and not with our Father in family caring and sharing.

"Confess your sins to one another and pray for one another that you may be healed" is rarely activated.
Yeah . . . you already did say this, in so many words, didn't you?

Every thing God's word says to do is meant to be done with God >
our Heavenly Father is almighty to succeed in having us do . . . what
> He <
means and He is able to do with us.

"for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure." (Philippians 2:13)
 
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Most of what doctors call mental illness are spiritual issues.
The more sin, and inolvement with the darkness the more 'spiritual issues/mental illnesses'.
What is appalling is not deliverance as 'archaic beliefs' but the appalling thing, is christians are letting the devil sneakely do harm and do nothing about it, having the weapons and means through God to do so.
I know of a late Catholic religious sister (nun) who died fairly young in 2024, may she rest in peace, that was diagnosed with ADHD. She was a lawyer and incredibly intelligent.

I don't think it was a "spiritual issue" for her because she knew God quite well.

ADHD is very real. Some people just can't focus through no fault of their own.

My younger brother was "diagnosed" with ADHD and had to take medication for it. My oldest brother was "diagnosed" with it and had to take adderall.

Neither ever saw a psychiatrist.

I've seen 3+ psychiatrist in my life for other issues.

Peace
 
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I know of a late Catholic religious sister (nun) who died fairly young in 2024, may she rest in peace, that was diagnosed with ADHD. She was a lawyer and incredibly intelligent.

I don't think it was a "spiritual issue" for her because she knew God quite well.

ADHD is very real. Some people just can't focus through no fault of their own.

My younger brother was "diagnosed" with ADHD and had to take medication for it. My oldest brother was "diagnosed" with it and had to take adderall.

Neither ever saw a psychiatrist.

I've seen 3+ psychiatrist in my life for other issues.

Peace

Yes - is 'real' all right, and Psychiatrists can't identify a cause, they just try to treat the symptoms with med's.

Then again Psychiatrists are not allowed to deal with a spiritual cause, that is why I hear of Christians leaving the profession and becoming counsellors or clinical psychologists so they can deal with spiritual causes when and if they arise.
 
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The problem there is a variety of spiritual issues, that not always is the person fault and not always is 'satanic', most people are victims.
And the stigma of having issues shouldn't exists, people are not more evil or inferior for having them.
 
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What I do see is strong Christians being incapacitated by ADHD - what happened to getting the elders of the church to pray for healing ?
What I do see is strong Christians being incapacitated by ADHD - what happened to getting the elders of the church to pray for healing ?
Carl perhaps it is a mixture of both. But one thing is certain is that religion and government bureaucracy have become welcome bedfellows joined at the hip more and more. Meaning you need degrees or certificates for the power of the God to be accepted as legal status in todays world.
 
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Carl perhaps it is a mixture of both. But one thing is certain is that religion and government bureaucracy have become welcome bedfellows joined at the hip more and more. Meaning you need degrees or certificates for the power of the God to be accepted as legal status in todays world.

Kathleen, you make a good observation...

I guess Jesus and the Apostles operated in the Father's power outside of that requirement back in the day, and were executed for it.

What goes around comes around.

We sure need Him to come back.

Meantime the likelihood of needing to be underground or at least discrete looms.

My Pastor used to say that the church was not within a bulls roar of what we were seeing of His power as we ministered in the inner city.

No one was credentialed - folks were saved and healed - the truely miraculous was common.

There seems to be a principle here.

The foolish things of this world.
 
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