Can their be a Reformed Pentecostal?

[CCWoody]

 

[Truly Blessed]

CCWoody, I take my rep points back from you for posting something so disgusting. Bad Bad Bad.

And yes I get your point.

 

[cygnusx1]

AAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

I think that it is so irreverent and so WRONG! I agree. Don't get me started.

I have never heard of it ........................ but I can tell you i am feeling sick ........

 

[Jon_]

Not all of us are cessationist, though I don't think that most of us who are continuationists don't share in the Pentecostal excesses and abuses.

What I meant is that Reformed Theology, as systematized by the great theologians of the faith, such as Calvin, the fathers of Dordt, the divines of Westminster, Edwards, Hodge, Warfield, etc., all taught the total cessation of all spiritual gifts.

That is not to say there are no "non-cessationists" in Reformed circles, only that it is what Reformed Theology professes.

Soli Deo Gloria

Jon

 

[Erinwilcox]

How irreverently funny! Did you add the captions?

 

[oworm]

I got the wood.

Anyone got any matches?

 

[Erinwilcox]

I'll bring the fire-starter!

 

[CCWoody]

I'll bring the fire-starter!

Repeat after me: I will not fly into a rage and kill a messenger just to illustrate how much I detest a doctrine like this whole "Jesus is my boyfriend" thing. Good messengers are hard to come by.

The problem is that I don't think that some people who claim to believe this whole "Jesus is my boyfriend" stuff have thought out clearly what the implications are or how people have taken that and run with it, turning the Lord in to an effeminate kind of gal pal.

 

[Erinwilcox]

Are you claiming to be the good messenger, Woody? Is this self-defense 101? Cause you know, that Gal Pal Jesus photo was pretty, umm. . .

 

[Truly Blessed]

Repeat after me: I will not fly into a rage and kill a messenger just to illustrate how much I detest a doctrine like this whole "Jesus is my boyfriend" thing. Good messengers are hard to come by.

I was just kidding.

 

[janny108]

I have never heard of it ........................ but I can tell you i am feeling sick ........

Not to get off topic, but where did you get that cool avatar??
Jan

 

[StAnselm]

What I meant is that Reformed Theology, as systematized by the great theologians of the faith, such as Calvin, the fathers of Dordt, the divines of Westminster, Edwards, Hodge, Warfield, etc., all taught the total cessation of all spiritual gifts.

Yeah, what about Lloyd-Jones, eh? He certainlly wasn't cessationist.

And I would hope that here in SR we welcome either view, just as we welcome both credo- and paedo-baptism. I guess we're united on the basis of a common soteriology, while allowing difference of opinion on issues like eschatology and church government.

Then again, I do find it hard to reconcile the possibility of continuing special revelation with a reformed view of Scripture.

 

[Antman_05]

I'm one so i can't see why it couldn't happen.

 

[cygnusx1]

I'm one so i can't see why it couldn't happen.

 

[calgal]

Repeat after me: I will not fly into a rage and kill a messenger just to illustrate how much I detest a doctrine like this whole "Jesus is my boyfriend" thing. Good messengers are hard to come by.

The problem is that I don't think that some people who claim to believe this whole "Jesus is my boyfriend" stuff have thought out clearly what the implications are or how people have taken that and run with it, turning the Lord in to an effeminate kind of gal pal.

IMO the whole "Jesus is my Homeboy" type nonsense turns the Great I Am into a mascot for Friday Night Football or worse yet, a marketing tool. An amusing concept some adhere to is that some of the seeker sensitive chuches think they are leading the next Great Awakening. The preachers most prominent in the great awakening (as well as the Apostle Paul) were not physically impressive or even fantastic orators. However, God was at the helm and they were simply His humble servants. Somehow I fail to see the seeker sensitive folks as humble.

 

[calgal]

Yeah, what about Lloyd-Jones, eh? He certainlly wasn't cessationist.

And I would hope that here in SR we welcome either view, just as we welcome both credo- and paedo-baptism. I guess we're united on the basis of a common soteriology, while allowing difference of opinion on issues like eschatology and church government.

Then again, I do find it hard to reconcile the possibility of continuing special revelation with a reformed view of Scripture.

I think it is possible (amazing acts of Divine Providence do occur).

 

[Seaioth]

Reformed Pentacostal is kinda an oxymoron isn't since they believe that in order to be true believer you gotta be able to speak in tongues as evidence of your faith ?
it considering that most reformed are selective-cessationist if not total cessationist. There are however charisimatic reformed... which you are probably aware of, yet it is indeed puzzling.

http://www.charismaticreformed.org

 

[StAnselm]

they believe that in order to be true believer you gotta be able to speak in tongues as evidence of your faith ?

Most pentecostals don't.

 

[erin74]

Don't apologize for stating facts. Our music leader talks about 7-11 songs (seven words repeated 11 times or is it 11 words repeated 7 times??)

dh told me a story of when he was in college.

Apparently, and unusually, they were singing a song that was decided to be sung through a number of times. They started singing through for the third time and over it came the loud voice of one of the lecturers "Didn't God hear us the first time".

 

[JesusPhreek]

Contemporary worship is exactly that: something that is tied to and defined by current times. It is more influenced by man-made trends and what's popular now than God's imuttable Truths. It's not like it's best to only sing songs or use a worship style from a certain older time period, it's best to choose the most Biblically based worship-worthy songs or styles from any time period not being influenced by contemporary times, and it's probably good to change it around sometimes. So, I guess it shouldn't be traditional worship or contemporary worship. It should be Biblical worship.

(Also most old hymns blow 99% of any praise music written in the past 30 years out of the water as far as basic musical and lyrical quality goes, and they should because they have lasted. Even as a young kid I realised this. The best praise songs of today might make it into future hymnals and many already have.)

This was a kind of rant I went off on, but maybe some of it is significant.

Exactly. And that is the reason for it, to make things culturally relevant. The exact same reason why people use other than the KJ 1611, and things like that. While I agree that much of Contemporary Christian music is NOT appropriate for worship services, there is a lot that is and at least for me its refreshing to sing and have my 5yr ol boy sing right along with me.

Most pentecostals don't.

Thanks so much. Seaioth, thsoe are mostlyhe UPC people and they are Oneness, ie dont believe the Trinty, so are out there anyway.