Can Science Clean Up Swine?

[Sabertooth]

It's not what goes into our mouths that makes us unclean, but what comes out of it.

This is true in the spiritual sense, but salmonella will still ruin your day...!

 

[Brightmoon]

So they study dino's to see what man should eat?
I am not seeing any connection, please provide links.

I have a friend who is a nutritionist. She never
mentioned studying evolution in her trade.

I believe the bible when it says man is made in
the image and likeness of God, not a monkey.
The bible says the current animals was made in a day.

So what does the evolution - Nutritional studies
suggest we humans are to eat? please tell us.

. Nutritional studies are done with rats because what makes a rat healthy is also good for humans . theyve evolved to live around us

 

[Semper-Fi]

. Nutritional studies are done with rats because what makes a rat healthy is also good for humans . theyve evolved to live around us

Please tell us what nutritionist recommend humans to eat?
Does that lineup with the bibles food recommendations?

So humans could or should eat what rats eat?
Do rats get leaky gut ?

Rats bread after there kind.
There Still no proof we evolved from animals.

How did man get smarter then animals? Have
not seen any monkeys building rocket ships.

 

[Brightmoon]

Please tell us what nutritionist recommend humans to eat?
Does that lineup with the bibles food recommendations?

Do rats get leaky gut ?

There Still no proof we evolved from animals.

How did man get smarter then animals? Have
not seen any monkeys building rocket ships.

what does any of this have to do with common descent? Humans are animals by the way . The bibles food recommendations are based on Jewish religious traditions which other cultures don’t happen to follow ,including most Christians . Shellfish , insects and other Arthropoda like crab and lobster, rabbit, snake, ostrich rabbit jand pork are all good to eat. You can’t even get lamb in the stores where I live never mind goat or mutton and I live in nyc .

 

[Brightmoon]

Eighty percent of American antibiotics are used
not to treat humans, but farm animals.

In mass-scale industrial food production, animals are commonly fed the wrong food and crammed into unsanitary living conditions, so they get sick easily.

Recognizing this problem, farmers and meat-packers, rather than addressing the cause and improving the conditions, simply dose their animals with antibiotics.

Scientists have warned for decades that this practice—a constant low dose of antibiotics in a large number of animals—creates exactly the environment you would need if you were deliberately trying to breed antibiotic-resistant superbugs.
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To get rid of sickness, we have to keep health laws like nutritious diet, cleanliness and hygiene, sunshine and fresh air, exercise, plenty of rest, avoiding
injury, and keeping a positive mental attitude.

The more Antibiotics are used, the worse we get.
It harms the bodies natural immune system.

The more they are used, the less effective they become. Diseases that were once treatable are becoming killers again, the World Health Organization warned.

The organization said the over-prescription of anti-
biotics has enabled the rise of untreatable superbugs.
Antimicrobial resistance
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WHO warns the world is running out of antibiotics
WHO warns the world is running out of antibiotics

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Concern about growing global antibiotic resistance has come to a head: The World Health Organization is now warning that the world is running out of antibiotics.

There aren’t enough truly new antibiotics being developed, especially for the most concerning antibiotic-resistant infections, according to a WHO report released ...

[T]he latest WHO report takes a broad and prospective look at antibiotic development, and what it describes is not a pretty picture.

“Antimicrobial resistance is a global health emergency that will seriously jeopardize progress in modern medicine,” said Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the WHO’s director-general. Without more investment in research and development, “we will be forced back to a time when people feared common infections and risked their lives from minor surgery.”
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No matter how many antibiotic are produced,
Jesus Christ has done forcast global pandemics.

And I looked, and behold a pale horse: [rev. 6:7-8]
“and there shall be pestilences” (Matthew 24:7).

The man on the pale horse symbolizes climactic,
globe-encircling plagues and pandemics occurring
and soon to occur in this modern age!
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The world is headed for a post-antibiotic era, in which common infections and minor injuries which have been treatable for decades can once again kill.
'The world is headed for a post-antibiotic era,' WHO official warns

So I do not trust mans use of antibiotics. Today they are used in lieu of proper animal care, all for profits.

Is this how the bible tells us to treat animals?

. Antibiotics saved my life when I was a baby . Since humans are animals I guess antibiotics treated me well.
Evolution is responsible for antibiotics. Early antibiotics came from fungi for example penicillin from a Penicillium fungus . Dr Fleming noticed that it killed bacteria around it . Either he or someone else came up with the idea that it might work to kill bacteria in animals ( including humans) because we are closely related to fungi. They only did the experiment because animals are closely related to fungi . If separate creation were true that experiment wouldn’t have made sense.

Vaccines and evolution
The original vaccine against smallpox during the 18th century was a lucky guess. Modern live vaccines use natural selection to get a weak strain that won’t csuse disease. In other words, they used natural selection to get All 3 versions of polio vaccine . Thank evolution that polio 2 is now extinct

 

[RDKirk]

No. I am agreeing with @Semper-Fi that the Bible has been shown to have "scooped" science, and that we should not wait for science to "catch up" before we consider these matters. (Gentiles still have no spiritual mandate to do so, however.)

Science proved there was a point--back then. And then went beyond what they had the technology to understand--back then.

The physical point has been overridden: Just cook it thoroughly. Cutting it thin, salting it, and frying it is awesome and fully resolves the physical uncleanness issue. The disease aspect can be overcome. That's no longer a reason. Any further reason would have to be spiritual.

And what scientific reason makes rabbit dangerous? Not long ago in America, rabbit was the primary meat dish--cheaper than chicken. In fact, when Herbert Hoover promised "a chicken in every pot," it meant "instead of rabbit."

 

[Tone]

The bibles food recommendations are based on Jewish religious traditions

If it's a Biblical mandate, it is not Jewish religious tradition...it's His Word.

what scientific reason makes rabbit dangerous

*Key phrase: "Biological magnification"

Watch the video I mention in the above^

 

[Hieronymus]

But, what makes the animals unclean?

Who cares?

 

[Hieronymus]

This is true in the spiritual sense, but salmonella will still ruin your day...!

But this was about pigs.

 

[Kaon]

If it's a Biblical mandate, it is not Jewish religious tradition...it's His Word.

Why is this so hard to understand for some? If it comes out of His mouth, it is Law.

 

[Sabertooth]

Why is this so hard to understand for some? If it comes out of His mouth, it is Law.

But according to Paul, those aspects of Judaism are not a pre-requisite for surrendering to Jesus.

 

[Tone]

those aspects of Judaism are not a pre-requisite for surrendering to Jesus

Clean/unclean is pre-Jew...and nobody said it was a salvific issue...we're talking the best available, Creator-given diet for the human body.

 

[Tone]

Who cares?

Several people participating on this thread do...it's the topic...

 

[Dkh587]

Do you mean unclean meat list that is explicitly rejected by God in Acts?

Where did God reject the “unclean meat list” that He gave to His children?

 

[Dkh587]

what does any of this have to do with common descent? Humans are animals by the way . The bibles food recommendations are based on Jewish religious traditions which other cultures don’t happen to follow ,including most Christians . Shellfish , insects and other Arthropoda like crab and lobster, rabbit, snake, ostrich rabbit jand pork are all good to eat. You can’t even get lamb in the stores where I live never mind goat or mutton and I live in nyc .

The instructions given in Leviticus 11 are not “Jewish religious traditions”.

 

[Kaon]

But according to Paul, those aspects of Judaism are not a pre-requisite for surrendering to Jesus.

Who is greater: Paul of the Most High God.

Paul is not saying what you think he is saying, because Paul would not contradict the Most High God.

The Most High God has NEVER told any of us who want to be His children that we can disobey any of His Laws He has set up.

 

[Kaon]

Clean/unclean is pre-Jew...and nobody said it was a salvific issue...we're talking the best available, Creator-given diet for the human body.

It has never been a salvation issue, it is simply a "being a child of a good parent" issue. What parent would encourage their younger children that they could break the rules because their Older Brother followed them perfectly?

And yet, the parent doesn't stop loving their child because they are disobedient; they pity where they will end up because of their disobedience.

 

[Sabertooth]

Paul is not saying what you think he is saying, because Paul would not contradict the Most High God.

In Galatians 5:12, Paul said that those who prescribe [male] circumcision as a spiritual requirement should go all the way and mutilate themselves! It is the same Law.

(And I am a proponent of prophylactic male circumcision.)

 

[sfs]

Where did God reject the “unclean meat list” that He gave to His children?

Acts 15, which lists the requirements that are to be laid on Gentile believers, and Peter's vision before meeting Cornelius.

 

[Kaon]

In Galatians 5:12, Paul said that those who prescribe [male] circumcision as a spiritual requirement should go all the way and mutilate themselves! It is the same Law.

(And I am a proponent of prophylactic male circumcision.)

You NEVER answer the question.

Who is greater: the Most High God or Paul?