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Can Science Clean Up Swine?

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Your physical well being doesn't matter?
It doesn't matter spiritually. Every decision has natural consequences (even when the Bible doesn't speak about a given subject).

IOW, "don't have to" is not the same thing as "won't benefit from."

On the flip side, "will benefit from" can in no way be construed as a mandate. It is a heads-up.
 
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They're also made of food

Pig is never called food in the Bible.

*There is an account of how Messiah interacted with pig...He allowed a legion of demons to enter them...and kill them...
 
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Yet, we eat them. Because they're made of food.

Yay, food. It's ok to eat food.

So, you have made what is unclean...and never considered food biblically...clean food? Then you don't even need science to make it clean...just your taste buds...

*"Science" has attempted to make many things digestible...contrary to Scripture.
 
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So, you have made what is unclean...and never considered food biblically...clean food? Then you don't even need science to make it clean...just your taste buds...
If it's cooked, and it tastes good, and doesn't cause a violent allergic reaction, I eat it.
 
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So, you have made what is unclean...and never considered food biblically...clean food? Then you don't even need science to make it clean...just your taste buds...

*"Science" has attempted to make many things digestible...contrary to Scripture.
Contrary to Scripture? What of Peter and Paul eating with the Gentiles and Peter's vision to kill and eat in Acts? I can assure you Pork was on those Gentile menus.
 
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Contrary to Scripture? What of Peter and Paul eating with the Gentiles and Peter's vision to kill and eat in Acts? I can assure you Pork was on those Gentile menus.

Peter said he never had nor would he eat what is unclean. He understood that vision to be speaking of calling people unclean.
 
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Check out that chapter, friend.

I have...did you have something particular in mind?

*The point of this thread is that pig is an unclean animal according to the Bible. Do you disagree?
 
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I have...did you have something particular in mind?

*The point of this thread is that pig is an unclean animal according to the Bible. Do you disagree?
There are two answers to this question, Tone. It's not a yes or no question.

I think, the more you look into this, the more folks you talk to, the more you pray about and study how the early Christians responded to and used food, the more answers and possible solutions you'll find.
 
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*The point of this thread is that pig is an unclean animal according to the Bible. Do you disagree?

It is unclean because the Creator says it's unclean. Now, we know, scientifically, that it is a very unhealthy animal to eat. So, my question is can this science make what has been deemed unclean by God...clean?
 
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So, you believe that people have the ability to change what Scripture calls unclean into clean?
Nothing in my post said anything of the sort. Do you often make up beliefs and attribute them to other people?
 
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Nothing in my post said anything of the sort. Do you often make up beliefs and attribute them to other people?

Oh, sorry...you believe that the new testament changed unclean to clean. What about science...do you believe that science can do the same?

*I believe that people misinterpret the new testament when they conclude that the unclean animals were changed to clean.
 
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Where did the Word of God give a pass on the law to anyone that wants to be a child of the Most High God? Could you name a place where The Redeemer Himself, or the Most High God says we can ignore His Laws previously set up by Him?
 
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They explain why pork is unclean in the Levitical laws: because the Pig doesn't chew the cud. If you genetically manipulate one to do so, I don't see why it couldn't be kosher, but then is it really still a pig?

Doesn't matter to us Christians though, unless you are a Messianic Jew.

It can't be kosher because it is genetically modified, and a pig/swine.

If the Most High God tells us to do something, it is a good bet it is perpetually good for us.
 
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