Can Satan be forgiven?

[TheKingOfImmortality]

After I place that last qustion on why did God not destory Satan, A new qustion just pop into my head.



Can Satan ever be forgiven for what he has done and be allowed back into heaven?

 

[theVirginian]

why did God not destory Satan,

Spirit beings are immortal.

Can Satan ever be forgiven for what he has done

No. Nobody tempted him so he had no excuse.

and be allowed back into heaven?

He burned that bridge big time.

 

[WarEagle]

After I place that last qustion on why did God not destory Satan, A new qustion just pop into my head.



Can Satan ever be forgiven for what he has done and be allowed back into heaven?

No. Satan does not have the opportunity to repent.

Satan is not held to the same standard we are because he is an angel, not a human being.

 

[tapero]

After I place that last qustion on why did God not destory Satan, A new qustion just pop into my head.



Can Satan ever be forgiven for what he has done and be allowed back into heaven?

It doesn't appear so, for he is already condemned.

Clearly satan will never be forgiven, and as right before the judgement He seeks to kill and destroy and wars against Christ appears satan himself has no desire than what has always been his desire since he fell, murder, destroy, decieve.

We have no insight into any convenants or provisions etc, if any that God has or had with angels.

So we've no clue what keeps good angels from falling (be it that they choose not to) or have some provision, such as those in heaven (humans) will have or do have, which we also do not know why.

We know in part why, but not in full.

 

[sinner/SAVED]

Any of you have any scripture references to back up your answers?

 

[Lukaris]

Any of you have any scripture references to back up your answers?

um Revelation 20:10?

 

[Adoniram]

Satan/Lucifer is full of himself. A prideful being.

Is. 14

13 For you have said in your heart:

‘ I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
I will also sit on the mount of the congregation
On the farthest sides of the north;
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds,
I will be like the Most High.’

In order to be forgiven, a person must reach the point of acknowledging that they are sinners in need of forgiveness. Only after humbling themselves before God and asking for forgiveness can God extend his forgiveness to them. This, of course, is something the devil will never do, so no, he cannot be forgiven.

 

[tapero]

Any of you have any scripture references to back up your answers?

As pertains to the 1000 year reign of Christ on earth:

They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5(The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.

And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. 2He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.

When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison 8and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore. 9They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God's people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them. 10And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

.

 

[Adstar]

After I place that last qustion on why did God not destory Satan, A new qustion just pop into my head.



Can Satan ever be forgiven for what he has done and be allowed back into heaven?

[FONT=&quot]We are different to Angels. Angels can see God clearly. Therefore the rebellion against God by satan is far more evil than the rebellion of us limited human beings.

Because we are less than angels in understanding God has given us the option of being forgiven. But we still must acknowledge our need for that forgiveness.

Satan and the angels that joined his rebellion will not be forgiven. In the book of Revelation it reveals that satan and his Angels will be cast into the Lake of fire.



All Praise The Ancient Of Days[/FONT]

 

[Adstar]

Any of you have any scripture references to back up your answers?

Revelation chapter 20 is very revealing.

All Praise The Ancient Of Days

 

[Emmy]

Dear KingOfImmortality. Like God is all Love, Satan is all EVIL. Satan does not want to be forgiven, Satan wants to rule. Jesus vanquished Satan on Golgotha, Satan is the conquered adversary, but Satan will not accept it. In St.Luke chapter 10, verse 18, Jesus tells His returning Disciples, that He saw Satan fall like lightning from Heaven. Jesus had sent 70 disciples into cities to tell the people of His coming, and they healed some sick and cast out demons. It was a time when Satan realised that he had no power over Jesus, or any of His followers. Satan is on Earth now, and he realises that his enemies are getting stronger. We may be sure that Satan fights with all his evil weapons: Lies, false promises, and all cruelty and destruction. Satan will never ask forgiveness, Satan believes that his evil ways and means, will rule one day. He is desperately seeking for followers, and his promises are empty and deadly. I say this with humility and assurance, KingOfImmortality. Greetings from Emmy, sister in Christ.

 

[SonicBOOM]

After I place that last qustion on why did God not destory Satan, A new qustion just pop into my head.



Can Satan ever be forgiven for what he has done and be allowed back into heaven?

yes and no. I beleive if Satan ever did humble himself and ask for forgiveness, than he would be forgiven. however the bible claims that this will never happen anyways. The bible claims that Satan's heart is proud. It shows Satan being thrown into the lake of fire without any signs of being sorry at all. This mirrors the response of the evil people in revelation who "never repented, but continued to curse God". Satan, even at the final judgement, is not the least bit sorry. It brings another intresting quistion to be honest. Are the people in hell sorry for what they did? or are they to constantly cursing God even as they suffer?

 

[Merlin]

After I place that last qustion on why did God not destory Satan, A new qustion just pop into my head.



Can Satan ever be forgiven for what he has done and be allowed back into heaven?

Jesus died for the sins of mankind.
But not for all creatures.
We are special.

 

[SonicBOOM]

Jesus died for the sins of mankind.
But not for all creatures.
We are special.

I know I'm not supposed to debate, but I can't resist this.

One would argue this point with a pretty popular verse:

John 3:16-17

16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.


here we see that God doesn't exclude humanity, it's the entire world that he seeks to save. What he means by "the world" is debatable, but I personally think it's pretty straightforward if it's not over-anylized.

 

[Stinker]

Jesus died to save us humans who would respond to His invitation. It is strange how an immortal being like Lucifer and his angelic followers would risk losing what they had in heaven. They must not have even thought about what would happen if they lost the rebellion.

 

[SonicBOOM]

Jesus died to save us humans who would respond to His invitation. It is strange how an immortal being like Lucifer and his angelic followers would risk losing what they had in heaven. They must not have even thought about what would happen if they lost the rebellion.

stangly enough though, the same thing could be said about Adam and Eve. Remember... they lived in an incredably beautiful garden that could be compared to The Bahamas. Even in the mists of this paradise they were willing to risk the loss of it all just for the sake of that one tree. I think this is what makes the sin so bad. God restricted them from NOTHING except for that tree.... yet they were convinced that God was holding out on them JUST BECAUSE he restricted one tiny thing.

Satan CAN be forgiven.... but the only thing thats preventing it is his out-right sttuborn additude that is birthed in pride. He doesn't wanna admit he was wrong, much like alot of fallen humans don't wanna admit their sins.... even if it means eternal life if they do.

 

[Apostlemoore]

After I place that last qustion on why did God not destory Satan, A new qustion just pop into my head.



Can Satan ever be forgiven for what he has done and be allowed back into heaven?

immortality, god has blesed me to have the word upon my heart and not my mind so im just telling you ill have little ability to directly quat the word so dont chasten me in this the lord will rebuke you in this i know. but the ansqwer to this question is yes, satan can be forgiven. all beings of concient ddecent have this. but every being is in his purest essence his heart. and god being a heart know the heart. so he prejudged ans condemned satan for his sin since time immemorial. satan will never concent to repentance because he is the god of this world (protemporary) he was the full god since admams sin through christ. yet christ reclaimed the earth by paying satans (sins) price of repentance. a perfect human being sacrifice. satan knew that after elija and enoch before him there were no longer any perfect humans so he set his outragious price. but god outwitted this demigod in comparrison by comeing as jesus, so when jesus come back it will be the equivalant of the big muscular purchaser of a forclosed home being secured from the clutches of a scrwney formor delinquient tenant. and he will not accept the rules of the new owner and live there (the earth or heavan) peaceably, due to his insescent pride. satan is pride incarnant, and choses not o be otherwise

 

[bdfhjlnprtvxz]

Well, in regards to Satan being forgiven...

As far as I know it for the Lutheran church (I am a LCMS Lutheran, for contextual purposes), it is believed that any and all sins can be forgiven, except one. The only sin that cannot be forgiven is to thoughtfully choose to turn one's back against God, and to not love God out of personal choice. (I know there's a scriptural reference, but unfortunately my mind's blanking... it's in one of the Pauline epistles, I do believe... or maybe Hebrews lol...).

Satan turned his back against God. He had put his own selfish ambitions above God, in hopes of becoming as powerful as Him. So, as far as I can see it from the Lutheran perspective, Satan cannot be forgiven for what he has done.

I don't even want to go into theoretical ideas like "well what if Satan was sorry" and all that jazz, because as far as we see it, Satan's sticking to his guns until the very end.

If I can think of the verse(s) that went along with the viewpoint listed above, I'll try to remember to post it here later on just to put it into context... or, if you want to dig through www.lcms.org/ctcr to figure out more thoughts that the LCMS has upon theological issues, that's cool too.

 

[Mary_Magdalene]

PLEASE remember, this is NOT a debate area. No debating~direct your responses to the OP.

thanks.

 

[PROPHECYKID]

I'll answer both. If God destroyed Satan all the angels would worship him out of fear and not truly out of love. God didnt destroy Adam and Eve for the same reason. It is that same reason he gave us freedom of choice. God wants us to worship him from love not from fear. He want everyone to know that he is a fair God and that he is not mean. He is forgiving and merciful.
Satan cant be forgiven. Angels are on a higher level therefore its much harder for them to fall but when they do thats it.