Can a person say with honesty, "I am saved", if you do not live a life worthy of your calling as a Christian?
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I am not sure how you've answered the question. Is one still a Christian if you live a life that is not Christian?If he person has the indwelling Holy Spirit in them, they are saved. You can quench the Spirit and go about sinning, but that does not mean you are lost at that point. If you tire of Deity and no longer want the gifts showered on you, you can give your inheritance away.
We might never live a life worthy of being called "Christ like" (Christian).
All the ones that Christ put on his right and to whom he said, "Come, you that have received a blessing from my Father, take possession of the kingdom which has been prepared for you since the foundation of the world".Who among us is worthy of Christ?
Are you saying Christ died for you because of your worth?All the ones that Christ put on his right and to whom he said, "Come, you that have received a blessing from my Father, take possession of the kingdom which has been prepared for you since the foundation of the world".
Its not the quote that I'm concerned with, but what you are attempting to assert it says. Why so evasive, rather than simply answering my question?Christ said what I quoted.
Because your question puts words into my mouth, so to speak. My answer is that those whom Christ says are Blessed by the Father are worthy of their calling. I also point to the 144,000 virgins in Revelation 14, these too are worthy. So, yes, people can live a life worthy of their calling in Christ.Its not the quote that I'm concerned with, but what you are attempting to assert it says. Why so evasive, rather than simply answering my question?
It's a question, not a statement, so I can hardly see how it would put words in your mouth. Where is this "worthy of their calling" you speak of in the text? I certainly don't see where you're getting that from what you've presented.Because your question puts words into my mouth, so to speak. My answer is that those whom Christ says are Blessed by the Father are worthy of their calling. I also point to the 144,000 virgins in Revelation 14, these too are worthy. So, yes, people can live a life worthy of their calling in Christ.
Sorry for the confusion.I am not sure how you've answered the question. Is one still a Christian if you live a life that is not Christian?
I believe that I am saved , period ,Can a person say with honesty, "I am saved", if you do not live a life worthy of your calling as a Christian?
No, of course not. We prove that the Holy Spirit is not indwelling us if we return to serious sin/deeds of the flesh. In that case we've already turned away from Him, despite any profession of so called faith or belief that we're saved.Can a person say with honesty, "I am saved", if you do not live a life worthy of your calling as a Christian?
Yet there are evangelical Christians who affirm "once saved always saved" which implies that living a godly life is optional.No, of course not. We prove that the Holy Spirit is not indwelling us if we return to serious sin/deeds of the flesh. In that case we've already turned away from Him, despite any profession of so called faith or belief that we're saved.
Do we have to continue striving for perfection so we no longer have faults and shortcomings, or do we put our trust in Jesus who is perfect for us and covers our imperfections with His pure righteousness. The fact is that all sin is serious and leads to death. A thief is a thief regardless of the value of what he stole. A liar is a liar regardless of whether he told a white lie or a serious one. An adulterer is an adulterer just because he looks at someone with lust. A murderer is one who merely hates another person. And yet we do all these things every day to some degree, and we have to continually confess our sin and ask forgiveness. So, if sinless perfection is the standard of salvation, then we have to ask, "Who then, can be saved?"No, of course not. We prove that the Holy Spirit is not indwelling us if we return to serious sin/deeds of the flesh. In that case we've already turned away from Him, despite any profession of so called faith or belief that we're saved.
You could try both; both trust and obey, for there's no other way, to be happy in Jesus, but to trust and obey.Do we have to continue striving for perfection so we no longer have faults and shortcomings, or do we put our trust in Jesus who is perfect for us and covers our imperfections with His pure righteousness.
Obedience is to the Gospel and not to a set of regulations. If we fully appreciate the love of Christ and seek to walk in that love, we find ourselves walking in the Spirit. Obedience to the Gospel involves love, peace, joy, gentleness, kindness, patience, faithfulness, goodness, and self control. When these attributes shine out through our lives, they show that we are actually walking in obedience to the Gospel.You could try both; both trust and obey, for there's no other way, to be happy in Jesus, but to trust and obey.
What about those who claimed they are saved and later completely abandon the faith?If he person has the indwelling Holy Spirit in them, they are saved. You can quench the Spirit and go about sinning, but that does not mean you are lost at that point. If you tire of Deity and no longer want the gifts showered on you, you can give your inheritance away.
We might never live a life worthy of being called "Christ like" (Christian).
A genuinely saved believer will never abandon the faith. Anyone can claim salvation but God knows the hearts.What about those who claimed they are saved and later completely abandon the faith?
That sounds a lot like what I wrote - trust and obey.Obedience is to the Gospel and not to a set of regulations. If we fully appreciate the love of Christ and seek to walk in that love, we find ourselves walking in the Spirit. Obedience to the Gospel involves love, peace, joy, gentleness, kindness, patience, faithfulness, goodness, and self control. When these attributes shine out through our lives, they show that we are actually walking in obedience to the Gospel.
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