Can Muhammad and Paul be buddies

[2 King]

Allah, wouldn't accept Paul in His paradise.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Allah, wouldn't accept Paul in His paradise.

Awww...shuckz!

 

[RMDY]

Paul would have rebuked Mohammad for his beliefs---that Mohammad denies the Son of God and denies the resurrection for starters.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Paul would have rebuked Mohammad for his beliefs---that Mohammad denies the Son of God and denies the resurrection for starters.

Just as the Lord rebuked these corrupt hypocritiacal Judean rulers who wanted to stone Him for "blasphemy" for claiming to be a God

John 10:33 Answered Him, the Judeans saying "about a good work not we are stoning Thee but about blasphemy and that Thou, being a man, are making thyself a God".

Reve 16:11 And they blaspheme the God of the heaven out of the miseries of them, and out of the sores of them, and not they reform out of the works of them

 

[fremen]

Allah, wouldn't accept Paul in His paradise.

He got kicked out of Muslim paradise by the infuriated virgins that were assigned to him after he said to them: "I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I."

But since he was a Jew, he's welcome in our share of the garden.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

He got kicked out of Muslim paradise by the infuriated virgins that were assigned to him after he said to them: "I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I."

But since he was a Jew, he's welcome in our share of the garden.

Best post ever!!!

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Does all of Islam share the view of Paul being a False Apostle?

2Peter 2:1 There became yet also False-Prophets in the people as also in ye shall be False-Teachers whoany shall be carrying in sects of destruction.
And the One buying them, Owner/Master/despothn <1203> disowning, bringing on them swift destruction. [Matt 24:11/Jude 1:4]

Paul of Tarsus: The False Apostle According to Islam

The purpose of this brief article is to show that Paul, the self-acclaimed “apostle” whom the Christians follow, have no place in Islam at all. Muslims believe that between the time periods of the Prophet Jesus(P) and the Prophet Muhammad(P), no Messenger of God had came between them, whether to the Gentiles or the Jews. This is based on an agreed hadith recorded by Imam Muslim and Imam Bukhari, as follows:

 

[brinny]

Does all of Islam share the view of Paul being a False Apostle?

2Peter 2:1 There became yet also False-Prophets in the people as also in ye shall be False-Teachers whoany shall be carrying in sects of destruction.
And the One buying them, Owner/Master/despothn <1203> disowning, bringing on them swift destruction. [Matt 24:11/Jude 1:4]

Paul of Tarsus: The False Apostle According to Islam

The purpose of this brief article is to show that Paul, the self-acclaimed “apostle” whom the Christians follow, have no place in Islam at all. Muslims believe that between the time periods of the Prophet Jesus(P) and the Prophet Muhammad(P), no Messenger of God had came between them, whether to the Gentiles or the Jews. This is based on an agreed hadith recorded by Imam Muslim and Imam Bukhari, as follows:

Hmmmm.... so Jesus the Christ is defined as a prophet?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Hmmmm.... so Jesus the Christ is defined as a prophet?

They have a different view of Deut 18 than the Jews and Christians do I think........

Acts 3:22 For Moses indeed [toward the fathers] saying: 'that a prophet to ye shall be raising up, Lord the God of ye, out of the brothers of ye as Me.
Of Him ye shall be hearing/akousesqe according to all as much as ever He should be speaking toward ye. [Deut 18:18,19]

http://www.christianforums.com/t702036/
Who is the prophet in Deuteronomy 18:18?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I still do not see what reasons the Muslims would have for viewing Saul/Paul as a false Apostle

 

[brinny]

Just as the Lord rebuked these corrupt hypocritiacal Judean rulers who wanted to stone Him for "blasphemy" for claiming to be a God

John 10:33 Answered Him, the Judeans saying "about a good work not we are stoning Thee but about blasphemy and that Thou, being a man, are making thyself a God".

Reve 16:11 And they blaspheme the God of the heaven out of the miseries of them, and out of the sores of them, and not they reform out of the works of them

Actually He claimed to be God.

*changed it for clarification.....had the word THE in there to emphasize He was saying He and the Father (God) are one.*

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Actually He claimed to be God.

*changed it for clarification.....had the word THE in there to emphasize He was saying He and the Father (God) are one.*

Jesus was also to be a type of Moses I think.

Exodus 7:1 And YWHW is saying unto Mosheh "see! I give thee as Elohiym to Par`oh, and 'Aharown thy brother shall be thy prophet;

Mark 14:53 And they led away the Jesus toward the Chief-priest, and are coming together to Him all the chief-priests, and the elders, and the scribes

http://www.christianforums.com/t7283257/
How was Jesus like unto Moses?

 

[anatolian]

"I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I."
Best post ever!!!

Why not just do it?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

There is currently a thread on the Christian GT board concerning Paul being a "false Apostle" if any Muslims here are interested....

http://www.christianforums.com/t7432020-8/#post53906980
Pauline Christianity

 

[brinny]

Originally Posted by LittleLambofJesus
"I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I."
Best post ever!!!

Why not just do it?

do what, sir?

 

[brinny]

There is currently a thread on the Christian GT board concerning Paul being a "false Apostle" if any Muslims here are interested....

http://www.christianforums.com/t7432020-8/#post53906980
Pauline Christianity

interesting thread indeed.

 

[Wicked Willow]

interesting thread indeed.

Yeah, I really dig the objection "no Christian theologian agrees with the OP!"

Do these people even realize that this is basically the equivalent of a communist countering a critique of "The Capital" by pointing out that no party member would agree with it?
Oh, so none who follow and teach Paul's version of Christianity think that Paul was a fraud? I'm so surprised, I really didn't see that one coming!


(Apart from that, the assessment that NO theologian ever doubted Paul's traditional status is quite incorrect. Some notable pioneers of historical criticism - all of them theologians - pretty much support the same view as the OP in that other thread.)

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Yeah, I really dig the objection "no Christian theologian agrees with the OP!"

Do these people even realize that this is basically the equivalent of a communist countering a critique of "The Capital" by pointing out that no party member would agree with it?
Oh, so none who follow and teach Paul's version of Christianity think that Paul was a fraud? I'm so surprised, I really didn't see that one coming!


(Apart from that, the assessment that NO theologian ever doubted Paul's traditional status is quite incorrect. Some notable pioneers of historical criticism - all of them theologians - pretty much support the same view as the OP in that other thread.)

That OP just started another anti-Paul thread but used oodles of Bible Scripture in the opening posts but finally started listing some so called "scholars" that agree with him.....Onward thru the Fog I say!

http://www.christianforums.com/t7432654/
You wanted it you got it .. my full blown attack on Paul

 

[Wicked Willow]

That second post was kinda lame, admittedly, especially with regards to the perceived "contradictions".

 

[Montalban]

do what, sir?

Do what John? Do what John?
Come again do what?
Do what John? Do what John?
Do what? Do what? Do what?
Do where John? Do where John?
Wiv what, wiv whom and when?
Trific; realy trific.
Pardon; come again.
Do what John? Do what John?
Come again do what?
Do what John? Do what John?
Do what? Do what? Do what?
Do where John? Do where John?
Wiv what, wiv whom and when?
Trific; realy trific.
Pardon; come again.
-Monty Python
Monty Python's Contractual Obligation Album