Originally Posted by Alive_Again View Post
I believe it is permissible (Lord giving the space) for all believers to review anything ANYONE says in the church. We don't just open up and swallow.
Not only permissible but actively required. Paul didn't write "test the things you feel like testing and keep whatever takes your fancy".
Let me phrase that a little better. Yes, we're to judge (weigh for truth) all things.
It may be possible for believers to review "verbally" with another anything. The Lord "censored" me for speaking a slight against John MacArthur with someone where I worked who brought it up. I looked on the Net for some of what he said, and it was hugely amiss.
I was "correct" in what I said, but I just spouted out my judgment (incorrect). I was corrected for doing so. I was not led to make that comment.
Many comments people make (even when they're right) are out of the present context of winning people. They're not my servants either, and my comments only helped to establish that current reality.
A lot could be said about a lot of people, fielding opinions, etc. The Lord told Roberts Liardon that to speak of something that basically wasn't any of your business is engaging in "religious politics". Meaning, we're also not called just to stand on the fence of your backyard with your neighbor/brother and conject about certain things beyond you. You don't know the whole picture and without some light/judgment you're just conjecting in your flesh to no profit.
(If you do it) you're serving up others to do it as well. It leads to more ungodliness.
I said: Also, you're not judging the man, you're judging what is presented. You're looking at the fruit.
If you're free (in the Lord) to speak of what someone in particular is doing, you're judging that action, not condemning the person (which is what often goes on around here).
We may get a sense in our spirit that something is wrong, and a combination of our brain and our spirit will then test the words against Scripture. God gave us an intellect for a reason.
Yes the soul doesn't go home without dinner. But the soul is the servant of the spirit. People come down on Kat Kerr for saying, "Leave your brain at the door" (which you can't really do).
She's just saying to judge with your spirit and don't try to figure it out mentally, because you won't even enter in.
People in demonstrating how to do, often present how not to do and they demonstrate woundings or places where their liberty was restricted by presumption, deception, etc. It's a free'er judgment to forget that (not boxing favoring the protection of one side). Just receive it (for judging) without being suspicious.
why no mention of body parts? Just beleive anyone on TV?
The whole body part thing. You won't find it in the Word. You ask and believe.
You can receive restoration supernaturally without a knowledge of where certain "new" parts come from. If you're offended by a "body parts warehouse", then just ask and believe and let the provision take are of itself. The revelation of the warehouse is to demonstrate to believers that a large provision is available for whatever you need (physically). It's supposed to build your faith. It's a gift to understand this.
It's only received by a witness to the truth (unless you see it). If people don't bear witness to it they shouldn't become offended because someone else does. It does not invalidate it just because it isn't mentioned in the Word. Apart from a fulfillment of prophecy or a synoptic account,
many things in the Word were "new" and just because they weren't mentioned in no way detracts from their reality.
One obvious question to ask here is how many times someone can get it wrong before it is concluded they are a false prophet. I
I guess when they start preaching another gospel and another Jesus (or another God). You'd be a lot safer then, but until then, you're better off not handing out titles. Especially to ministers who are leading thousands to Christ.
I said: Spirits like Jezebel work in the same way to garner consensus over implied revelation from God (yet it tears down established authority.
Spirits work to discredit signs and wonders and get people to enter into agreement with fleshly judgments that they are of the devil. They experience a degree of blindness and this so-called "consensus" is a defilement factory to keep believers unable to validate real (howbeit extraordinary) supernatural manifestations from God. It's because there's a beam in their own eye.
In my opinion, it's a crying shame for someone to take potshots at people who are a tremendous blessing. The anointing is strong in their services and wonderful revelation comes forth and
groups of blinded people (in these areas) are shouting. I don't see it! I don't see it! Deception! Beware! These people are people who call upon the Lord, and yet they don't recognize a lot of what He is doing, and worse, they judge with condemning words those who do.
Now as far as youre squirt gun post, do you think that rosary beads heal, or "holy water" or prayers to Mary? I don't remember if you actually thought the beads healed?
Very sad indeed.
