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Is total self-termination or total self-obliteration within the parameters of God's abilities? Or do we conclude that no matter how he might feel concerning his own existence, He is incapable of such an act?

God cannot act not in accordance with His nature. His nature IS existence - He is the great "I am". Without Him, nothing else would exist either.

No, God cannot self-terminate.

But this is really one of those nonsensical questions. "Can God make a square triangle?"
 
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God cannot act not in accordance with His nature. His nature IS existence - He is the great "I am". Without Him, nothing else would exist either.

No, God cannot self-terminate.

But this is really one of those nonsensical questions. "Can God make a square triangle?"

My apologies for hurting your spiritual sensibilities.
However, please note that not everyone agrees with you that the question has no value for discussion purposes. So perhaps you should take that into consideration?

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You are also glibly providing an answers without really delving deeply into the essence of what is involved. In short, your response constitutes straw man since I am not challenging any of the issues which you are vehemently defending.
 
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David said. Restore to me the joy of your salvation.

Why did he say this?
Because he wasn't aware that his sins were sins which offend GOD and break his joyous relationship with GOD

Or because he was very much aware that they were against GOD alone he had sinned
 
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My apologies for hurting your spiritual sensibilities.
However, please note that not everyone agrees with you that the question has no value for discussion purposes. So perhaps you should take that into consideration?

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You are also glibly providing an answers without really delving deeply into the essence of what is involved. In short, your response constitutes straw man since I am not challenging any of the issues which you are vehemently defending.
Are you changing your mind and wanting to go forward with this discussion?
 
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David said. Restore to me the joy of your salvation.

Why did he say this?
Because he wasn't aware that his sins were sins which offend GOD and break his joyous relationship with GOD

Or because he was very much aware that they were against GOD alone he had sinned


Perhaps it was a sin for me to ask the question as you suggest.
Not everyone agrees with you on that however.
Actually, your self-righteous condemnatory attitude reminds me of this Star Trek scene:
 
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Perhaps it was a sin for me to ask the question as you suggest.
Not everyone agrees with you on that however.
Actually, your self-righteous condemnatory attitude reminds me of this Star Trek scene:
I didn't say it was a sin. I said it was not good and pointless

You alone felt rightly convicted of guilt.

Though short-lived
 
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I didn't say it was a sin. I said it was not good and pointless

You alone felt rightly convicted of guilt.

Though short-lived

Rightly convicted of guilt? And who are you may I ask to be pompously elevating yourself as judge over me? My relationship is between me and my creator alone. You don't quite fit into the equation..

Romans 14:4

Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand.


James 4:12

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There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you--who are you to judge your neighbor?

Furthermore a judgmental, cruel attitude is a sin that needs removal instead of focusing on others.

Matthew 7:3
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"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?
 
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Rightly convicted of guilt? And who are you may I ask to be posting yourself as judge over me? My relationship is between me and my creator alone. You don't quite fit into the equation..
You said it sir

Not me

And you are free to do what you want to do of course
 
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You said it sir

Not me

And you are free to do what you want to do of course


No mam, you said it and must take full responsibility for it.
I strongly suggest that you stop striving to shove the Lord God out of his judgment seat in order to sit there yourself.


Ecclesiastes 12:14
For God will bring every act to judgment, everything which is hidden, whether it is good or evil.


You do not qualify due to many a deficiency of which you are obviously totally unaware.

1 Samuel 16:7

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But the LORD said to Samuel, "Do not consider his appearance or his height, for I have rejected him. The LORD does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart."
 
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Rightly convicted of guilt? And who are you may I ask to be pompously elevating yourself as judge over me? My relationship is between me and my creator alone. You don't quite fit into the equation..

Romans 14:4

Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand.


James 4:12

New International Version
There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you--who are you to judge your neighbor?

Furthermore a judgmental, cruel attitude is a sin that needs removal instead of focusing on others.

Matthew 7:3
New International Version
"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?
No sir I didn't and will not take responsibility for it
 
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No mam, you said it and must take full responsibility for it.
I strongly suggest that you stop striving to shove the Lord God out of his judgment seat in order to sit there yourself. You do not qualify due to many a deficiency of which you are obviously totally unaware.
No sir I didn't and will not take responsibility for it
 
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No sir I didn't and will not take responsibility for it
That is the powers that be and for God to decide.
The thread could either deteriorate into the path that Satan would prefer or it can be used for glorification of God. Striving might and main to burden me with guilt isn't the way.

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The ones claiming that God can self-terminate are Trinitarians since they consider Jesus God and he did self terminate for three days. Me? I never made that claim. In fact, such a claim can might be considered a sin and an attack on of God's dignity by non-Trinitarians. Me? I don't hold either view.
 
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That is the powers that be and for God to decide.
The thread could either deteriorate into the path that Satan would prefer or it can be used for glorification of God. Striving might and main to burden me with guilt isn't the way.
I didn't. I suggest you read the posts again sir.

The thread still remains moot and meaninglrss
 
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I didn't. I suggest you read the posts again sir.

The thread still remains moot and meaninglrss

Dogs consider human conversation very often meaningless and it has absolutely nothing to do with its content.
Inability to derive deeper meanings doesn't mean that deeper meanings are absent. Inability to perceive does not mean absence of the perceivable.
 
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Is total self-termination or total self-obliteration within the parameters of God's abilities? Or do we conclude that no matter how he might feel concerning his own existence, He is incapable of such an act?
No, God cannot do the Ungodlike thing. Besides, God transcends time, he pervades eternity.
 
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all things are possible, but not all things are profitable.;)

(this OP is a varient on the theme "Can God make a rock that He cannot lift?")
And the answer to that is, "Not a proper question."

If God did self-terminate then the whole universe would go out as well, and we wouldn't have even a moment to know that it happened.
 
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