Can ChatGPT interpret speaking in tongues?

[ARBITER01]

And where there is not faith, there will not be understanding.

But I appreciate your contributions to this thread. You are particularly good at explaining things in an educational sort of way!

Thanks.

It's mainly for the folks just watching looking for that "aha" moment of understanding. The naysayers I shrug off.

 

[Guojing]

Yes.

So anyone who gotten covid 19 in those churches, cannot be because of that reason, but must be because of some other reason?

How do you know that to be true?

 

[The Liturgist]

So anyone who gotten covid 19 in those churches, cannot be because of that reason, but must be because of some other reason?

How do you know that to be true?

If the spoon became infected as a result of the disease, it would have infected anyone who partook who had not acquired immunity to the virus and would have been identified by the CDC as a source of an outbreak. This simply did not happen. This is because the spoon contained the Body and Blood of Christ, which cannot harm us, and not bread and wine.

The same parishes did temporarily use separate cups for the blessed wine made available after the Eucharist to wash down any particles of the Body of our Lord and also any Antidoron (blessed bread), which was likewise distributed with increased care.

Likewise the Copts used a shared spoon, with no super-spreader events, but as is their tradition, everyone who then partook of Holy Water to wash down any particles of the Body of our Lord used small individual cups (the Copts use for this purpose the trays that many Protestant denominations use for the Eucharist in lieu of the traditional shared chalice).

 

[Guojing]

If the spoon became infected as a result of the disease, it would have infected anyone who partook who had not acquired immunity to the virus and would have been identified by the CDC as a source of an outbreak. This simply did not happen. This is because the spoon contained the Body and Blood of Christ, which cannot harm us, and not bread and wine.

You have a very interesting logic there, even if your reasoning is somehow valid, the fact that you use CDC means you are only restricting it to churches within the USA.

But whatever floats your boat.

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

You have a very interesting logic there, even if your reasoning is somehow valid, the fact that you use CDC means you are only restricting it to churches within the USA.

But whatever floats your boat.

You missed the whole point of our friends post: "This is because the spoon contained the Body and Blood of Christ, which cannot harm us, and not bread and wine."

It is not because of science, it is because of what it is.

 

[Guojing]

You missed the whole point of our friends post: "This is because the spoon contained the Body and Blood of Christ, which cannot harm us, and not bread and wine."

It is not because of science, it is because of what it is.

It has nothing to do with science.

It is about the logic of his reasoning.

 

[Hawkins]

To me, AI is never innovative at this stage, it's just summing up human opinions with a better presentation.

 

[Hawkins]

I speak for myself and from my own experience, speaking in tongue is just a soul speaking language. Humans' language barrier is gone once leaving the body. "Speaking in tongue" is a common language spoken by souls without a body. When you speak in your own native tongue, everyone (soul) else will hear as their own native tongue. Souls even communicate with angels this way. Once enabled (can be disabled under different circumstances), you can hear the angels speaking in your native tongue.

The Pentecost event is rather a temporary enabling of this soul-to-soul speaking mechanism by God the Holy Spirit.

On the other hand, the Corinthians' way of speaking in tongue can be a way of praying in an unknown tongue, that is, not actually a human language. To identify or distinguish the two, a interpreter is needed,

1 Corinthians 14:27-28
If anyone speaks in a tongue, two—or at the most three—should speak, one at a time, and someone must interpret.
If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and to God.

It means, at the time of speaking, both can possibly be gibberish as it's supposed to be an off-body language. More like though, the speaker is trying to speak in his own native language, but it turns out to be in gibberish (equally possible is that, it's not gibberish but just his native tonuge), while at the same time all other people will hear as their own native tongues.

 

[JulieB67]

not edification of our mind.

I Corinthians 14:15 "What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also."

He continues..

Corinthians 14:16 "Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say "Amen" at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayeth?"


I Corinthians 14:17 "For thou verily givest thanks well, but the other is not edified."

This is all about going into a church and speaking and praying in a different language that those do not understand. It's not edifying (building up) the church.


I Corinthians 14:18 "I thank my God, I speak with tongues (languages in the Greek) more than ye all:"

Paul could speak more than one language

I Corinthians 14:19 "Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue."

And then we come full circle to his main point.

 

[ARBITER01]

I Corinthians 14:15 "What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also."

He continues..

Corinthians 14:16 "Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say "Amen" at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayeth?"


I Corinthians 14:17 "For thou verily givest thanks well, but the other is not edified."

This is all about going into a church and speaking and praying in a different language that those do not understand. It's not edifying (building up) the church.


I Corinthians 14:18 "I thank my God, I speak with tongues (languages in the Greek) more than ye all:"

Paul could speak more than one language

I Corinthians 14:19 "Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue."

And then we come full circle to his main point.

Christianity is spiritual not material.

Some things of GOD are not completely understandable with our mind, like the gift of tongues. Again, you're approaching this with no experience, which means you really have no clue what you're talking about.

 

[RileyG]

Perhaps I'm too pragmatic. But I ask questions like, why did this take until the 20th century to become a thing? As far as I know between Acts and the 19th century it's not spoken of in any church writings and records. At least as far as the Pentacostal spirit prayer language adaptation goes.

From what I understand, Pentecostalism was founded by Methodists in the early 1900s.

Charismatic is more of an umbrella term where Pentecostal practices have influenced other Christian Churches.

Someone can correct me if I’m wrong.

 

[ozso]

From what I understand, Pentecostalism was founded by Methodists in the early 1900s.

Charismatic is more of an umbrella term where Pentecostal practices have influenced other Christian Churches.

Someone can correct me if I’m wrong.

Yes it was founded by Charles Fox Parham who was a Methodist in 1900. I believe Pentecostals consider Methodists a kindred denomonation. I've only been to one Methodist service as I recall, and what stood out to me is it was more liturgical.

 

[RileyG]

Yes it was founded by Charles Fox Parham who was a Methodist in 1900. I believe Pentecostals consider Methodists a kindred denomonation. I've only been to one Methodist service as I recall, and what stood out to me is it was more liturgical.

Yeah, since Methodism was founded by an Anglican priest and his brother, John and Charles Wesley. I think some are liturgical where some are more contemporary.

 

[ARBITER01]

From what I understand, Pentecostalism was founded by Methodists in the early 1900s.

Charismatic is more of an umbrella term where Pentecostal practices have influenced other Christian Churches.

Someone can correct me if I’m wrong.

At Azusa Street, the people there were a branch of a holiness movement, which later became known at Pentecostal when The Holy Spirit was outpoured there.

 

[RileyG]

At Azusa Street, the people there were a branch of a holiness movement, which later became known at Pentecostal when The Holy Spirit was outpoured there.

Yes! I think I remember reading that but my memory must be rusty! Thanks for the info!