Can anyone explain how the moth got it's owl eyes?

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I wonder what scientists would do if they were omniscient?

When Jesus showed up, He put the priests out of a job, and most of them hated Him for that.

When He shows up again, he is going to put the scientists out of a job, and guess what?

Yeah, end times stuff really does nothing to support your case. Nor go against it, actually, now that I look on it. It's just you rambling against scientists in your age old, vindictive quest against scientists and science. So sad.

 

[trophy33]

I wonder what scientists would do if they were omniscient?

When Jesus showed up, He put the priests out of a job, and most of them hated Him for that.

When He shows up again, he is going to put the scientists out of a job.

And guess what?

Guess what - without scientists you would have no internet and no online forum to post your anti-scientific nonsense on.

 

[AV1611VET]

Guess what - without scientists you would have no internet and no online forum to post ...

And with scientists, neither does Christa McAuliffe now.

 

[trophy33]

And with scientists, neither does Christa McAuliffe now.

Your responses are making sense only to you, I guess.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Your responses are making sense only to you, I guess.

He likes to use disasters just tangentially linked to science, no matter how, to try and dump the deaths caused on the feet of his omniscient and all powerful and all evil view of science.

It's the character of a vulture and something very un-Christian.

 

[Ophiolite]

Your responses are making sense only to you, I guess.

Christa McCauliffe perished in the Challenger accident. AV is unable to distinguish between science - a process - and engineers, businesses and politicians. Or between incompetence and intent.

 

[AV1611VET]

Christa McCauliffe perished in the Challenger accident. AV is unable to distinguish between science - a process - and engineers, businesses and politicians. Or between incompetence and intent.

Who voted to go ahead with the launch, despite some scientists warning not to?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Who voted to go ahead with the launch, despite some scientists warning not to?

NASA, which is a mix of bureaucrats and scientists, with the latter having a lot less power than you think because of the former and the government.

But what does any of this have to do with the OP topic? Apart from you showing what a vulture you are?

 

[Ophiolite]

Who voted to go ahead with the launch, despite some scientists warning not to?

My recollection is that the warnings came from engineers. By all means post contrary evidence, but it remains irrelevant. The go decision was made by adminisrators acting under implicit political pressure.

 

[Ophiolite]

NASA, which is a mix of bureaucrats and scientists, with the latter having a lot less power than you think because of the former and the government.

But what does any of this have to do with the OP topic? Apart from you showing what a vulture you are?

You know we are just feeding the troll. Let's stop. The cost-benefit analysis on such conversations is not in our favour.

 

[Thurston-howell-III]

And you're outright ignoring that it also has a massive benefit! Sickle cells are aggressive against the malaria significantly more than regular blood cells, thus preventing malaria taking a hold in the body.

Sorry that it's not 100% perfect for effect for your liking.

And you’re ignoring the fact that sickle cell is BAD for a body. And what about the areas w malaria is unheard of?
Still wish sickle cell on your friends and family?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

And you’re ignoring the fact that sickle cell is BAD for a body. And what about the areas w malaria is unheard of?
Still wish sickle cell on your friends and family?

You really are just ignoring the fact that people have shown you that there is a beneficial mutation that is easy to see and understand.

And sickle cells can be harmful to the body, yes, but not in every single case. So shut up on using that as a way to try and ignore the fact that SICKLE CELLS HELP AGAINST MALARIA. WHICH IS A BENEFICIAL MUTATION.

 

[Astrid]

Science is never 100% sure. That's a feature, not a bug

100% sureity on anything is a
mental state. A somewhat deranged one, at that.

You know we are just feeding the troll. Let's stop. The cost-benefit analysis on such conversations is not in our favour.

Those feeding the two trolls presently here have only themselves to blame evrry time one hijacks a thread to focus on their infantile need for attention.

 

[AV1611VET]

100% sureity on anything is a mental state. A somewhat deranged one, at that.

Such as 100% of Christians ever born, alive today, and will be alive tomorrow believe IN THE BEGINNING, GOD?

The same God who made sure some moths got "owl eyes"?

 

[Ophiolite]

Those feeding the two trolls presently here have only themselves to blame evrry time one hijacks a thread to focus on their infantile need for attention.

Good to see you taking your share of the responsibility.

 

[Thurston-howell-III]

You really are just ignoring the fact that people have shown you that there is a beneficial mutation that is easy to see and understand.

And sickle cells can be harmful to the body, yes, but not in every single case. So shut up on using that as a way to try and ignore the fact that SICKLE CELLS HELP AGAINST MALARIA. WHICH IS A BENEFICIAL MUTATION.

Did you not just read my mention about areas w malaria is unheard of? What good is a "beneficial" sickle cell is such an area. Do you wish it upon your family in any case?
You're also quite in an unobtainable fettle as far as any mutations creating new body plans, never been observed, witnesses or proven.

 

[Astrid]

Did you not just read my mention about areas w malaria is unheard of? What good is a "beneficial" sickle cell is such an area. Do you wish it upon your family in any case?
You're also quite in an unobtainable fettle as far as any mutations creating new body plans, never been observed, witnesses or proven.

Time to return to yecland and brag how you
argued a whole roomful of atheists to a standstill.

 

[BCP1928]

Did you not just read my mention about areas w malaria is unheard of? What good is a "beneficial" sickle cell is such an area. Do you wish it upon your family in any case?
You're also quite in an unobtainable fettle as far as any mutations creating new body plans, never been observed, witnesses or proven.

The principle body plans have been established at least since the Paleozoic era. No new ones are likely to appear..

 

[Ophiolite]

Did you not just read my mention about areas w malaria is unheard of? What good is a "beneficial" sickle cell is such an area. Do you wish it upon your family in any case?

Did you not read the detailed descriptions of how mutations work? While some mutations are undoubtedly and always "bad", most mutations are neutral, while some mutations are "good" in one environment and "bad" in another. So it is with sickle cell.

Mutations that generate sickle cell have occured on multiple occassions. When they occured to populations that did not have malaria they were bad mutations. Natural selection weeded those mutations out of the population over a few generations. Where malaria was prevalent those mutations proved on balance to be beneficial to the population and became more common. In that environment these mutations were "good" mutations.

Eradicate malaria in that area, or move the population to somewhere that malaria does not exist and the mutations are now a disadvantage, they are now "bad" mutations. This is not rocket science.

Would I wish sickle cell on my family in any case? It seems that my extended family, if they live in a malaria prone area, will stand a better chance of avoiding an early death, or greatly compromised health if they have sickle cell. The statistics on this are quite clear. Yes, I would vote for the option that gave them the better chance of life and of a healthy life. I am at a loss to understand why you choose the option that puts them at greater risk. It seems perverse, so I have to imagine you still don't understand the principle.

 

[Thurston-howell-III]

Time to return to yecland and brag how you
argued a whole roomful of atheists to a standstill.

You my athiest friend, are DEFINITELY at a stand still as far as dreaming for mutations(copying errors) to create a living creature such as any mammal. All your mutations do is give you disease or mutants. LOL