Can angels repent?

[tonychanyt]

See Can angels repent?

 

[Sorn]

Sure they can repent but it doesn't seem like they get any benefit from repenting, ie their repentance has no effect on what ultimately happens to them

 

[tonychanyt]

Sure they can repent but it doesn't seem like they get any benefit from repenting, ie their repentance has no effect on what ultimately happens to them

verse?

 

[Sorn]

verse?

Deductive reasoning my good man. Can an angel regret their 'life choices', sure, they are intelligent beings right?

Can that regret get them anywhere, doesn't seem like it as the Bible doesn't indicate angels can be saved.
However at the end of the day, the Bible is about our sin and how God saves us, not about angels etc.
If God can save a repentant angel, He did not include it in the Bible
I'm sure there is tons of stuff about Heaven & its inhabitants that we are not privy too, no need to know and all that.

 

[tonychanyt]

Deductive reasoning my good man. Can an angel regret their 'life choices', sure, they are intelligent beings right?

Angels are intelligent beings.
Therefore, angels are able to regret their life choices.

Can you prove that?

 

[Sorn]

Angels are intelligent beings.
Therefore, angels are able to regret their life choices.

Can you prove that?

Can you prove they can't !??

If a person smuggles drugs into a country and gets caught and thrown into jail, they may regret their 'life choices' (in this case smuggling drugs), but it still won't change the fact they have to do their sentence, whatever it is

 

[tonychanyt]

Can you prove they can't !??

No.

 

[d taylor]

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Humans are given a change to believe in Jesus to receive God's free gift of The Life of God (Eternal Life). Being that after Adam, all humans are born with a dead spirit. Repentance may give a person (believer or unbeliever) forgiveness of a sin or sins they have or are committing, but repentance never gives a person The Life of God. That is only received by belief/faith in Jesus.

 

[Blade]

Deductive reasoning my good man. Can an angel regret their 'life choices', sure, they are intelligent beings right?

Can that regret get them anywhere, doesn't seem like it as the Bible doesn't indicate angels can be saved.
However at the end of the day, the Bible is about our sin and how God saves us, not about angels etc.
If God can save a repentant angel, He did not include it in the Bible
I'm sure there is tons of stuff about Heaven & its inhabitants that we are not privy too, no need to know and all that.

You made the statement "Can an angel regret their 'life choices', sure, they are intelligent beings right? " So its up to you not anyone else.. the burden of proof which there is none. In heaven we know there is no such thing as sin. So if were just no offense but running with speculation.. nothing to talk about.

As for can angels repent..there not human. Salvation is only for man. We are created in His image they were not. We are the only ones in creation that can call GOD our Father.. Sorry its not like the movies and TV shows.

 

[Sorn]

You made the statement "Can an angel regret their 'life choices', sure, they are intelligent beings right? " So its up to you not anyone else.. the burden of proof which there is none. In heaven we know there is no such thing as sin. So if were just no offense but running with speculation.. nothing to talk about.

As for can angels repent..there not human. Salvation is only for man. We are created in His image they were not. We are the only ones in creation that can call GOD our Father.. Sorry its not like the movies and TV shows.

"In heaven we know there is no such thing as sin. ."
Definitely not the case! In the new heavens & earth there will be no sin, but in the current heavens & earth there most definitely is sin.
Satan was in heaven when He sinned & He still hasn't been kicked out though He will be eventually.
I know some believe he has been but that doesn't change the fact that he sinned while IN heaven as did the angels with him

The rest of your statement is your speculation that you can not prove. The Bible is a book about God, our creation, fall & restoration & how God does it with just an occasional peek into the heavenly realms. It is by no means an encyclopedia on angels but we are told we are beneath them currently so they are intelligent beings.

 

[St_Worm2]

Humans cannot directly observe the spirit existence of God. We do have the ability to choose to repent and be redeemed by Christ. Angels can directly observe the spiritual existence of God. They can see that God exists. Yet, they choose to rebel against God. Angels who see the realities of God and still rebel have no excuse. The Bible does not describe any redemptive plan for such beings. They seem to be incapable of repenting.

Hello Tony, there appear to be two classes of angels in the Bible (in regard to this topic),

1. those who are designated as both "elect" and "holy" and ​

2. those who are fallen, IOW, demons. ​

Redemption and forgiveness for the latter group would require something that we have, but they do not, a Savior to redeem them who, by His death and by His blood could become the atonement for their sins (but again, and as you said in your OP, there is no redemptive plan for such beings, the third of the heavenly host that is fallen, that is).

God bless you!!

--David

 

[Daniel9v9]

There is no Bible passage that says that angels can repent or even want to. They appear to be fixed in number and in state. That is, they don't procreate or die, so they don't increase or decrease in number. And all evidence we have from God's Word suggests that good angels are forever holy to the Lord, but that the ones who abused their authority and rebelled, that is, Satan and demons, are forever damned.

 

[Blade]

"In heaven we know there is no such thing as sin. ."
Definitely not the case! In the new heavens & earth there will be no sin, but in the current heavens & earth there most definitely is sin.
Satan was in heaven when He sinned & He still hasn't been kicked out though He will be eventually.
I know some believe he has been but that doesn't change the fact that he sinned while IN heaven as did the angels with him

The rest of your statement is your speculation that you can not prove. The Bible is a book about God, our creation, fall & restoration & how God does it with just an occasional peek into the heavenly realms. It is by no means an encyclopedia on angels but we are told we are beneath them currently so they are intelligent beings.

bless you thank you. Yes sin was found in Satan Christ said "And He said unto them, “I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.". If we back up when God talked to Satan concerning Job. God asked where do you come from "“Going here and there, checking things out on earth.” It is also written that he Satan "Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

The city that comes down "But nothing unclean will ever enter it, nor anyone who does what is detestable or false, but only those who are written in the Lamb's book of life."

"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

"Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God."

"And said, “Truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven."
"Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”"

"But our citizenship is in heaven, and from it we await a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body to be like his glorious body, by the power that enables him even to subject all things to himself."

"For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure, or who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God."

There is no sin in heaven this is not up for debate. Yes sin was found in Satan and him and his angels were cast out...Christ cannot lie. Its very clear what can get in and what can not.