Can a Homosexual be a Christian?

[Polycarp1]

Christian forum. There will be no more disparaging of God's Word as anything less than God's Word.

So if you want to start with the post reporting bit again this morning, I'm ready.

Correct. Jesus Christ, the Incarnate Son, is God's Word (cf. John 1:14). The Bible is neither God nor a weapon with which to assault your enemies. And it often seems like many people who consider themselves Christian seem to make it into one or the other.

 

[Ohioprof]

Correct. Jesus Christ, the Incarnate Son, is God's Word (cf. John 1:14). The Bible is neither God nor a weapon with which to assault your enemies. And it often seems like many people who consider themselves Christian seem to make it into one or the other.

Happy birthday!

 

[Zaac]

I will continue to post here because I am a Christian, and I am also a gay person. I am, therefore, directly affected by how my fellow Christians treat gay people. I have a good reason to post here.

I cannot speak for God; therefore, I cannot lie for God. I can and do speak only for myself. I state honestly my beliefs about God and about sin. God does not require gay people to "repent" of being gay. Nor does God require gay people to "repent" of loving our spouses. That's what I believe. You may believe something different, and that's up to you. However, I will speak what I believe.

Nope . You're delivering as truth that which goes against God's Word. That makes you a liar.

And nobody said anything about God requiring repentance for you being gay.

 

[Zaac]

You believe what you think is God's word. Not all Christians agree with your interpretation of the Bible, my friend.

No one said anything to you about an interpretation.

 

[Ohioprof]

Nope . You're delivering as truth that which goes against God's Word. That makes you a liar.

And nobody said anything about God requiring repentance for you being gay.

I am speaking my understanding of truth only. I do not claim to speak for God.

Speaking our understandings of truth is what a debate forum is for, Zaac. If everyone agreed on everything, there would be no debate, and there would be no debate forums.

You may believe that your interpretation of the Bible constitutes God's word. I don't agree with you. That does not make me a liar; it makes me a Christian who thinks differently from you. Conformity of thought is not a requirement for being a Christian.

 

[Ohioprof]

No one said anything to you about an interpretation.

All reading of the Bible, or any text, involves interpretation. You can't read without interpreting. It's part of the process of reading.

 

[lincolngreen50]

I speak the truth of my experiences and my beliefs. If you refuse to hear what I say, that's fine. If you disagree with what I think, that's fine too. But I am certainly not lying about my experiences or about my beliefs.

One can believe that murder or stealing or bearing false witness is ok but we all know that it is not the case.
Why do believe it is not the case because the Word of God says so.
The Word of God says that Homosexuality is an abomination,He dosn`t like it because for one reason Homosexuals cannot be fruitful or multiply together.
They have to use the means of procreation how God intended to have a child a third party out of wedlock.A fornication in itself..A child that cannot be made out of the union between a man and his wife.
The way God intended.

 

[lincolngreen50]

Correct. Jesus Christ, the Incarnate Son, is God's Word (cf. John 1:14). The Bible is neither God nor a weapon with which to assault your enemies. And it often seems like many people who consider themselves Christian seem to make it into one or the other.

I do not look upon Sinners as enemies. God loves sinners but hates sin.
Do you believe that the Bible is Gods`s Word? yes or no

 

[Ohioprof]

One can believe that murder or stealing or bearing false witness is ok but we all know that it is not the case.
Why do believe it is not the case because the Word of God says so.
The Word of God says that Homosexuality is an abomination,He dosn`t like it because for one reason Homosexuals cannot be fruitful or multiply together.
They have to use the means of procreation how God intended to have a child a third party out of wedlock.A fornication in itself..A child that cannot be made out of the union between a man and his wife.
The way God intended.

Murder or stealing or bearing false witness (lying) are wrong because they harm people, not because they happen to be named in the Bible.

I do not believe that the Bible is the word of God. I certainly do not regard loving, committed relationships between people of the same sex as an "abomination." And if you really believed what is written in Leviticus on this, then you'd be out there stoning gay people to death, as the Bible calls for. Obviously you aren't, thank the Lord. You pick and choose what you will adhere to in the Bible, just as everyone who follows the Bible does.

 

[Zaac]

I am speaking my understanding of truth only. I do not claim to speak for God.

Speaking our understandings of truth is what a debate forum is for, Zaac. If everyone agreed on everything, there would be no debate, and there would be no debate forums.

You may believe that your interpretation of the Bible constitutes God's word. I don't agree with you. That does not make me a liar; it makes me a Christian who thinks differently from you. Conformity of thought is not a requirement for being a Christian.

You're hung up on interpretation. I ain't said nothing to you about an interpretation.

Your lies that speak against God's Word are what have been addressed.

 

[Phinehas2]

Dear Polycarp1,

Correct. Jesus Christ, the Incarnate Son, is God's Word (cf. John 1:14). The Bible is neither God nor a weapon with which to assault your enemies. And it often seems like many people who consider themselves Christian seem to make it into one or the other.

Sorry but let me explain to you from the Bible that all scripture is God breathed and useful for teaching rebuking and correcting in all matters of righteousness.2 Tim 3:16... thus I am correcting and teaching you now.
I also rebuking you because although the Bible teaches we are to love our enemies not assault them, the poster Zaac has not declaed anyone to be his enemy, thats your false testimony.

Now the Bible as God's word is a spiritual weapon in the sense it is a double edged sword which is living and active. Remember Jesus said his words and teaching were spirit and life.
We would see your reaction as having been convicted of the truth

 

[Zaac]

All reading of the Bible, or any text, involves interpretation. You can't read without interpreting. It's part of the process of reading.

Might explain your mass confusion.

As the Bible says in Proverbs 3:5
Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding;


If you want to know how to interpret God's Word, get out of God's way and ask HIM FIRST instead of confusing yourself with your erroneous interpretations.

 

[lincolngreen50]

Why would I lie to you, Zaac? What do you imagine would motivate me to lie about my life experiences or about my beliefs?

When I tell you that I am a Christian, I am being truthful. When I tell you that I am gay, I am being truthful. When I tell you that I am happy, I am being truthful.

No one believes that those lost in Christ lie , they are just misguided.

 

[Zaac]

Dear Polycarp1,
Sorry but let me explain to you from the Bible that all scripture is God breathed and useful for teaching rebuking and correcting in all matters of righteousness.2 Tim 3:16... thus I am correcting and teaching you now.
I also rebuking you because although the Bible teaches we are to love our enemies not assault them, the poster Zaac has not declaed anyone to be his enemy, thats your false testimony.

Now the Bible as God's word is a spiritual weapon in the sense it is a double edged sword which is living and active. Remember Jesus said his words and teaching were spirit and life.
We would see your reaction as having been convicted of the truth

AMEN!

 

[lincolngreen50]

I speak the truth of my experiences and my beliefs. If you refuse to hear what I say, that's fine. If you disagree with what I think, that's fine too. But I am certainly not lying about my experiences or about my beliefs.

Dear Ohioprof,You know what it says in the dictionary what the definition of a Christian is yet you continue to say that you are Christian when you have rejected Christian belief.
How can you reconcile that?

 

[Phinehas2]

Dear Ohioprof,

Murder or stealing or bearing false witness (lying) are wrong because they harm people, not because they happen to be named in the Bible.

Ah but thats your worldview not God's according to the Bible which incidentally says all other sin besides sexual ones are committed outside the body, bt sexual sin polutes the persons body which is a temple of the HolY Spirit .. two different worldviews, one a Christian one based on the Bible and yours not.

I do not believe that the Bible is the word of God. I certainly do not regard loving, committed relationships between people of the same sex as an "abomination." And if you really believed what is written in Leviticus on this, then you'd be out there stoning gay people to death, as the Bible calls for.

The Nt calls not to do that. If you dont believe the Bible you let us tell you about it and dont judge it falsely

 

[Ohioprof]

Might explain your mass confusion.

As the Bible says in Proverbs 3:5
Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding;


If you want to know how to interpret God's Word, get out of God's way and ask HIM FIRST instead of confusing yourself with your erroneous interpretations.

I am not confused. My beliefs are my beliefs, just as your beliefs are your beliefs. Your beliefs are only what you think God's will is; you do not speak for God.

 

[Ohioprof]

Dear Ohioprof,You know what it says in the dictionary what the definition of a Christian is yet you continue to say that you are Christian when you have rejected Christian belief.
How can you reconcile that?

I am not subject to the rule of the dictionary. I decide what being a Christian means to me, and that's that.

Phineas has long argued that the dictionary tells us what being a Christian is. No....we Christians define for ourselves what being a Christian is.

The dictionary merely reflects how people use language. The dictionary does not determine how people use language. Dictionaries change to reflect people's use of language.

 

[lincolngreen50]

My question to you would be, why are you not doing as you teach?

Jesus Himself in His earthly ministry probably did not address the question of homosexuality. He did, however, preach quite uncompromisingly on the nature of sitting in judgment over the supposed sins of your fellow man.

If you wish to be a Christian, repent and follow His commandments -- and allow others to do likewise.

WE are ALL sinners.
Those who have pledged their life to God`s Word have a duty to spread the Word of God.
We are deciples in Christ.
I am not Judging just stating how a sinner can be saved.
There are people in the World who do not know of Christ and are sinning.
The fact is.
One has to ask God to forgive his sins to be born again

 

[Ohioprof]

No one believes that those lost in Christ lie , they are just misguided.

Zaac used the term "liar" and applied it to me. So take that up with him if you disagree with him.

I am not misguided. Nor am I a liar. Nor am I lost in Christ.