Can a Christian have a premature death is he keeps living in lawlessness

[Guojing]

Galatians 3:28-29
You want to segregate when Paul himself was desegregating.

I was not, I already said I prefer the gospel of grace that Paul preached.

 

[Oldmantook]

If Jesus comes in the clouds, takes up His elect, they're in heaven while the 3 woes are going on, and then Jesus returns on a white horse before Armageddon... that's still Jesus returning, it's just Jesus returning in 2 events rather than one.

Jesus gave the timeline in Matthew 24
the events of Matthew 24 take place after the 6th seal in Revelation 6.
That is Jesus' timeline.
If you have a different one you need to come up with an explanation of why the events described in Matthew 24 are described in Revelation 6 after the 6th seal, and not in Revelation 19 when the battle of Armageddon takes place.
You'll have to explain why the 7th Seal immediately precedes the 7 trumpets (there is a space of half an hour of silence before it starts going down but the 7th seal is opened, and the angels are waiting)
Heck you'll have to explain why between the 6th and 7th seal, in Revelation 7, there's suddenly multitudes of people praising God and one of the ELDERS that was there in Heaven asks JOHN "who are these people?" and John told them that they were the people redeemed after enduring through the great tribulation.
Revelation 7 outright shows the Rapture takes place between the 6th and 7th seal, or God is doing a Quentin Tarantino on us, which would be utterly confusing for a book called "Revelation"

I guess you didn't read the article in a well-respected journal I referenced and linked you to huh? Try and bother to inform yourself.

 

[Jamdoc]

I guess you didn't read the article in a well-respected journal I referenced and linked you to huh? Try and bother to inform yourself.

anything extrabiblical is an opinion.

 

[Oldmantook]

anything extrabiblical is an opinion.

Yep, you didn't read the article. That says it all.

 

[Jamdoc]

Yep, you didn't read the article. That says it all.

Why would I? It's an appeal to authority that's not biblical

 

[Oldmantook]

Why would I? It's an appeal to authority that's not biblical

Your choice to stay uninformed and cling to your view.

 

[Johan_1988]

Take your salvation doctrine from Paul's epistles. God saved him and send him as our apostle.

The OT is for us to understand the history of God's relationship with Israel and is written for our learning. It does not mean everything that happens to them, under the gospel of the kingdom, is meant for us.

The most obvious application is signs and wonders.

Take your salvation doctrine from Paul's epistles. God saved him and send him as our apostle.

The OT is for us to understand the history of God's relationship with Israel and is written for our learning. It does not mean everything that happens to them, under the gospel of the kingdom, is meant for us.

The most obvious application is signs and wonders.

Ok, I get what your saying, but no signs and wonders in the new testament?

Mark 16:17 These signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new languages;
Mark 16:18 they will pick up snakes with their hands, and whatever poison they drink will not harm them; they will place their hands on the sick and they will be well.”
Mark 16:19 After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, he was taken up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God.
Mark 16:20 They went out and proclaimed everywhere, while the Lord worked with them and confirmed the word through the accompanying signs.]]

Acts 2:43 Reverential awe came over everyone, and many wonders and miraculous signs came about by the apostles.
Acts 5:12 Now many miraculous signs and wonders came about among the people through the hands of the apostles. By common consent they were all meeting together in Solomon’s Portico.

 

[Guojing]

Ok, I get what your saying, but no signs and wonders in the new testament?

Mark 16:17 These signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new languages;
Mark 16:18 they will pick up snakes with their hands, and whatever poison they drink will not harm them; they will place their hands on the sick and they will be well.”
Mark 16:19 After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, he was taken up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God.
Mark 16:20 They went out and proclaimed everywhere, while the Lord worked with them and confirmed the word through the accompanying signs.]]

Acts 2:43 Reverential awe came over everyone, and many wonders and miraculous signs came about by the apostles.
Acts 5:12 Now many miraculous signs and wonders came about among the people through the hands of the apostles. By common consent they were all meeting together in Solomon’s Portico.

It was still the gospel of the kingdom preached for at least 1 year after Jesus was crucified on the cross. Peter and the other only preached to Jews all the way up till Acts 10.

The gospel of grace only came thru Paul when the ascended Christ revealed to him the contents after he saved Paul.

 

[Johan_1988]

It was still the gospel of the kingdom preached for at least 1 year after Jesus was crucified on the cross. Peter and the other only preached to Jews all the way up till Acts 10.

The gospel of grace only came thru Paul when the ascended Christ revealed to him the contents after he saved Paul.

Ok...So the Jews were not saved by the same grace? No, there is no separate gospel for Jew and gentile according to scripture. Both are saved by the same gospel of Christ.

Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek(gentile).

 

[Guojing]

Ok...So the Jews were not saved by the same grace? No, there is no separate gospel for Jew and gentile according to scripture. Both are saved by the same gospel of Christ.

Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek(gentile).

Salvation is always by the grace of God.

What is the "gospel of Christ" then? What do you think are its contents?

 

[Behold]

If that happens, what consequences happens when goes to heaven.

If you are spiritually born again in life, you are spiritually born again when your body dies.
You go to heaven, you meet Jesus, you deal with the judgement seat of Christ as a part of the eternal family of God.

 

[pescador]

anything extrabiblical is an opinion.

That in itself is an opinion.

 

[Johan_1988]

Salvation is always by the grace of God.

What is the "gospel of Christ" then? What do you think are its contents?

The gospel of Christ is written by all the apostles of Christ simple.

 

[Guojing]

The gospel of Christ is written by all the apostles of Christ simple.

What are the contents of this gospel of Christ to you?