Can a child molester be saved?

Dave B · Jul 10, 2018

Dreadnot has the correct interpretation. Jesus was talking about little children. Even though it won't be their sin (they were innocent victims), they would feel guilty of committing a sin. Small children are innocent and treating them in a sinful manner is throwing an obstacle for them to find Jesus. The guilt that children may suffer would be throughout their lives and it would be hard to deal with. Thus abused children will have a poor self image that could doom them to failure. Drugs, self-destructive lifestyles, prostitution. Children were not to be around adults as they were the fringe of society as the lepers, impoverished, prostitutes, etc.

Mountainmanbob · Jul 10, 2018

(If) someone truly repents and (if) given a new heart by the Holy Spirit they are in no matter what they've done here on Earth.

Two BIG if's there.

Remember not one is good.

M-Bob

Kenny'sID · Jul 10, 2018

Mskriskris said:
You hypocrite, take out the log out of your own eye first so that you can see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.

That was also spoken by Christ.

Excuse me? are you calling me a hypocrite for asking others opinion on scripture?

And FWIW, you really need to read that verse carefully, I have no spec at all in my eye when it comes to pedophilia, none whatsoever.

MRHarvey · Jul 10, 2018

Jven79 said:
Based on Matthew 18:6, my opinion is not a chance

I would throw a curve ball ... We could just as easily ask the question, can an abortionist be saved? The way I see it, logically, mudering a child — including an unborn child — is just as bad a crime as molesting a child. Therefore, just as bad a crime as causing a child to stumble.

Kenny'sID · Jul 10, 2018

The more I think about it, the more I think Child molestation has nothing to do with causing a child to stumble...it's in a whole norther league.

ubicaritas · Jul 10, 2018

Clint Edwards said:
You seem to have a real problem with Evangelicals, here by innuendo linking them to violence against a Buddhist. STOP IT ! Your haughty judgemental attitude to believers who don´t share your particular sectarian zeal is unbecoming.

You seem to have misunderstood my point. She was not raised a Buddhist and did not become a Buddhist until she became an adult and left home. She was beaten up in school because she was transsexual and perceived as being gay. Now if you think Christians don't have some hand to play in negative perceptions of gay people and people in her situation, you're either ignorant of the history that Christians played in fostering those negative perceptions, or in denial.

lsume · Jul 10, 2018

Jven79 said:
Based on Matthew 18:6, my opinion is not a chance

That is a hard one to think about. However, when one goes through judgement, God The Father doesn’t ask you about the other guy He strictly focuses on you.

1Pet.4

[17] For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

Going through God’s Judgement happens to born again Christians here and now.

Prov.1

[7] The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

When one experiences the terror of The Lord, that is just the beginning of knowledge.

2Cor.5

[11] Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.

There is a website that does a good job of explaining it. If you search google for the terror of The Lord, you should find a number of posts. Perhaps it’s the true fear of The Lord.

Lady Bug · Jul 10, 2018

harko said:
What a stupid question *sigh*

is it stupid because you think they're saved without a doubt, or stupid because you think they're not saved?

I have to say I'm appalled at some of the replies in here - no offense sorry

Arthur B Via · Jul 10, 2018

Jven79 said:
Based on Matthew 18:6, my opinion is not a chance

In our finite love we can't imagine love and Grace that could both forgive and love such filth. However, in God's infinite love and Grace the answer is yes they, IF they believe in Christ's finished Work at the Cross, they were forgiven before committing the sin. This is a synopsis of what God says friends... Check Romans 8:37. God says, of the believer, "NOTHING can separate us from the Love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord "... God bless you all...

crunchihuahua · Jul 10, 2018

I am inclined to disagree here, yeah its me again, now after years of careful study I became a member of the OSAS group, repentance simply means a change of mind unless God repented of His sins 32 times or just changed His mind, now the fact is ANYONE can be saved, no matter who you are or what youve done, but to turn from your sin to be saved is works salvation, to add ANYTHING to believing is works salvation, Christ alone saves through grace He doesnt need your help, and yes you may live however after salvation but God will chastise you even to the point of physical death, but you WILL REMAIN SAVED, even child molesters, if Hitler believed on Christ before his death hed be saved, Jeffrey Dahmer got saved as well as David Berkowitz, Christ is mighty to save, and if He couldnt save Hitler, Dahmer, Berkowitz, or any child molester, then He couldnt save me or you, period, good day.

Kenny'sID · Jul 10, 2018

Arthur B Via said:
IF they believe in Christ's finished Work at the Cross, they were forgiven before committing the sin.

Then Christ who taught us the lords prayer and to say "forgive us our trespasses"
was just whistling Dixie? Had no meaning at all?

And one more question, can this pedophile continue in his ways after becoming a Christian, and still be heaven bound?

crunchihuahua said:
I am inclined to disagree here, yeah its me again, now after years of careful study I became a member of the OSAS group,

I'm so sorry to hear that.

Jven79 · Jul 10, 2018

Kenny'sID said:
Then Christ who taught us the lords prayer and to say "forgive us our trespasses"
was just whistling Dixie? Had no meaning at all?

And one more question, can this pedophile continue in his ways after becoming a Christian, and still be heaven bound?

I'm so sorry to hear that.

Kenny, what is your opinion? Can a child molester be saved?

Clint Edwards · Jul 10, 2018

ubicaritas said:
You seem to have misunderstood my point. She was not raised a Buddhist and did not become a Buddhist until she became an adult and left home. She was beaten up in school because she was transsexual and perceived as being gay. Now if you think Christians don't have some hand to play in negative perceptions of gay people and people in her situation, you're either ignorant of the history that Christians played in fostering those negative perceptions, or in denial.

I see, so, in your reference you didn´t say Christians, you linked it to Evangelicals, don´t weasel and don´t use righteous indignation as sand to throw in the eyes, admit your prejudice or admit your mistake.

Arthur B Via · Jul 10, 2018

Kenny'sID said:
Then Christ who taught us the lords prayer and to say "forgive us our trespasses"
was just whistling Dixie? Had no meaning at all?
It is ALWAYS best to read what God says and, as difficult as it may be for us, He is clear. ANY sin except blasphemy of the Holy Spirit will be forgiven and most scholars agree this is ignoring God's call for salvation through FAITH in Christ's finished Work at the Cross. Listen to what God tells us, (He's talking to us! Believers!)... Romans 8:37... NO-created- thing can separate us from the Love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord. EVERYTHING is -created-! Including US, even our "sin nature". We must accept God's gift completely in order to ever have the gifts of the Spirit.

And one more question, can this pedophile continue in his ways after becoming a Christian, and still be heaven bound?

I'm so sorry to hear that.

sunshineforJesus · Jul 10, 2018

In Gods eyes one sin is no worse than another so Yes of course a child molester can be saved.

dentonz · Jul 10, 2018

Jven79 said:
Based on Matthew 18:6, my opinion is not a chance

It’s the same for all sins. Can an adulterer be saved, or murderer?
Yes. One who has committed these acts but has repented and been transformed by the Holy Spirit is saved. However, no one that is an adulterer, murderer, child molester, who remains unrepentent in their actions can be.

ubicaritas · Jul 10, 2018

Clint Edwards said:
I see, so, in your reference you didn´t say Christians, you linked it to Evangelicals, don´t weasel and don´t use righteous indignation as sand to throw in the eyes, admit your prejudice or admit your mistake.

I was careful to say many evangelicals, not all evangelicals.

I belong to a church that is called the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America. We are evangelicals (in fact this term was used by Luther originally), but because we are Lutheran and we read the Bible critically we do not necessarily mirror conservative, non-Lutheran American evangelicals in our politics or social ethics (our laity are evenly divided between political parties).

Kenny'sID · Jul 10, 2018

Jven79 said:
Kenny, what is your opinion? Can a child molester be saved?

I haven't decided yet...if they repent/stop, and ask forgiveness...probably, but the scripture in the OP suggests otherwise, so juries still out on that one, for me anyway.

If they are and remain active, not a chance.

Kenny'sID · Jul 10, 2018

Arthur B Via, I didn't see where you answered the questions.

Lady Bug · Jul 10, 2018

sunshineforJesus said:
In Gods eyes one sin is no worse than another so Yes of course a child molester can be saved.

I am not sure that's true. In the book of James it talks of sins that do not lead to death, and some that do.

EDIT: not book of James lol but 1st book of John

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