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I guess the problem is that your definition of robot is not the same as most. I can train my dogs some but I sure cannot make them do squat.
How so?
(if I can interject; our true nature - as we were created - is for/toward God. We can reject this by choice.)
Maybe Adam and Eve were created that way, but we are not born with a nature for/toward God
Because dogs do not have the Spirit of the living God breathed into them. Humans do.How so?
Maybe Adam and Eve were created that way, but we are not born with a nature for/toward God
How so?
Well, all that can be said there is that although you might have counted yourself as being a Calvinist in the past, you nevertheless didn't understand Calvinism. There are reasonable grounds on which to oppose certain of Calvin's teachings, but "roboticism" is not one of them.
The charge is so obviously untrue to anyone who knows the theology that it can only be put off to either 1) misunderstanding or 2) a desire to say something that is groundless merely for the shock value in it. I will consider you to be in the first category, but I still know that some people talk that way for the other reason.
I guess that's why such as little children make up the kingdom of heaven. Because they were not born with a nature for/toward God?
Scripture to support that.
Say one is helping the poor so that they will look generous to their peers.
Volunteering at church to appear more godly
The pharasees were pretty good at it, just remember the account of the two men praying in the temple
Matt 19
14Jesus said, "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these."
Matt 19
14Jesus said, "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these."
Nowhere does it say that children are without sin.
Augustine of Hippo, The Confessions 1.7.11
Chapter VII.He Shows by Example that Even Infancy is Prone to Sin.
11. Hearken, O God! Alas for the sins of men! Man saith this, and Thou dost compassionate him; for Thou didst create him, but didst not create the sin that is in him. Who bringeth to my remembrance the sin of my infancy? For before Thee none is free from sin, not even the infant which has lived but a day upon the earth. Who bringeth this to my remembrance? Doth not each little one, in whom I behold that which I do not remember of myself? In what, then, did I sin? Is it that I cried for the breast? If I should now so cry,not indeed for the breast, but for the food suitable to my years,I should be most justly laughed at and rebuked. What I then did deserved rebuke; but as I could not understand those who rebuked me, neither custom nor reason suffered me to be rebuked. For as we grow we root out and cast from us such habits. I have not seen any one who is wise, when purging anything cast away the good. Or was it good, even for a time, to strive to get by crying that which, if given, would be hurtfulto be bitterly indignant that those who were free and its elders, and those to whom it owed its being, besides many others wiser than it, who would not give way to the nod of its good pleasure, were not subject unto itto endeavour to harm, by struggling as much as it could, because those commands were not obeyed which only could have been obeyed to its hurt? Then, in the weakness of the infants limbs, and not in its will, lies its innocency. I myself have seen and known an infant to be jealous though it could not speak. It became pale, and cast bitter looks on its foster-brother. Who is ignorant of this? Mothers and nurses tell us that they appease these things by I know not what remedies; and may this be taken for innocence, that when the fountain of milk is flowing fresh and abundant, one who has need should not be allowed to share it, though needing that nourishment to sustain life?
Do children, even infants, sin as in how Augustine of Hippo illustrated it?
Matt 19
14Jesus said, "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these."
Do you think He might've been referring to their helplessness?
So that isn't what there is about children that makes the kingdom belong to such as them.
So that isn't what there is about children that makes the kingdom belong to such as them.
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