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Paul calls himself the chief of sinners. "Sinner" is a perfectly good label to apply to a Christian.
He was speaking of himself in the past tense, not the current tense.
Not really, Paul call the churches saints, we were washed, sanctified, justified, does that sound like a sinner to you?
Does a Christian go back and forth between walking in the Spirit and walking in the flesh? IOW, do they go back and forth between being saved, and unsaved?
See post #22.
Christians are simul justus et pecator. Go and learn what these things mean.
Grammatically that's actually not the case. Paul says:
1 Timothy 1:15 - The saying is trustworthy and deserving of full acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am the foremost.
15 πιστὸς4 ὁ λόγος καὶ πάσης ἀποδοχῆς ἄξιος, ὅτι Χριστὸς Ἰησοῦς ἦλθεν εἰς τὸν κόσμον ἁμαρτωλοὺς σῶσαι, ὧν πρῶτός εἰμι ἐγώ.
It's in the present tense in the Greek, as the english translations reflect.
Paul also elsewhere says that he is not yet perfect:Read whole passage and quit pulling out what suits your agenda, he was speaking about what he was, verse 13, verse 15 says it WAS a trustworthy statement.
Every book says we are Saints.
in context brother
1 Timothy 1:15-16
"Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners--of whom I am the worst. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life."
This is speaking of his need of salvation. He is a sinner in need of salvation, as are all of mankind
It doesn't change the fact that after we are saved, baptised, believers in Christ we are saints.
I don't believe your counter-argument is effective, but that's fine. See post #27 for another example of the same thing.
Paul also elsewhere says that he is not yet perfect:
Philippians 3:12 - Not that I have already obtained this or am already perfect, but I press on to make it my own, because Christ Jesus has made me his own.
Since God requires perfection (Matthew 5:48) we may deduce that Paul was admitting that he is a sinful man - even as a Christian! This does not mean that Paul delights in sin or continues in unrepentant sin. But it means that Christians remain imperfect and in need of sanctification throughout their lives.
Saint doesn't mean perfect or perfected or glorified. It doesn't mean righteous or sinless either.
You still havent addressed the fact that Paul refers to the churches as saints.
"Saint" means "Holy One". Christians are indeed saints. But this does not mean that they are not also sinners. The guilt of our sins does not count against us because we are in Christ. And we have broken with our sin nature such that we are no longer bound to sin. But Christians are still inclined to sin and they still do sin. In this sense they are sinners who need a savior. But since they have a savior they are also saints.
Simul Justus Et Pecator
Saint doesn't mean perfect or perfected or glorified. It doesn't mean righteous or sinless either.
We are made Holy through Christ. We are baptised in the Holy Spirit.
Holy means set apart. We are no longer our own.
We are righteous, perfectly righteous. Not partly. The bible says you are either unrighteous or righteous, not in between. Of course we sin, but we are saints who sometimes sin, not slaves of sin but slaves of righteousness.
The old man has gone, the new has come, explain to me why Romans 7 says that sin is attached to you and its not you?
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