Calvinism, explained.

[Patmos]

God has chosen you beforehand in Christ to deny to the flesh any glory at all.
Paul teaches that our calling which has resulted in our being saved is due to God's personal decision and not the decision of man.
"29 that no flesh should glory in His presence."

If you had grounds for boasting, then you, your flesh, the natural you, would be the one making the decision to follow Christ.
God completely invalidates any idea of man coming to Christ without Him doing the work, otherwise flesh could glory in God's presence.
No a man must be born of God, born again by God's Spirit first, so that no flesh can glory in His presence, Which is why Christ says you must be born again first to enter into the kingdom of God second. And that choice is entirely God's which He does for His own glory.


1 Corinthians 1
Christ the Power and Wisdom of God
18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written:

“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise,
And bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.”

20 Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe. 22 For Jews request a sign, and Greeks seek after wisdom; 23 but we preach Christ crucified, to the Jews a stumbling block and to the Greeks foolishness, 24 but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

Glory Only in the Lord
26 For you see your calling, brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called. 27 But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty; 28 and the base things of the world and the things which are despised God has chosen, and the things which are not, to bring to nothing the things that are, 29 that no flesh should glory in His presence. 30 But of Him you are in Christ Jesus, who became for us wisdom from God—and righteousness and sanctification and redemption— 31 that, as it is written, “He who glories, let him glory in the Lord.”

Missing the point several times over.

Also, all scripture is God breathed, hence it is futile to build a dogma on a select few verse.

 

[Aldebaran]

Total depravity is self explainatory !

That's just another of your one-liners that don't even address what you responded to.

 

[tulipbee]

That's just another of your one-liners that don't even address what you responded to.

Still stands

 

[Aldebaran]

Still stands

If it doesn't address the post you're replying to, then it's meaningless. That is, unless you just come here to post musings that aren't meant to contribute to a conversation.

 

[tulipbee]

If it doesn't address the post you're replying to, then it's meaningless. That is, unless you just come here to post musings that aren't meant to contribute to a conversation.

I speak in koans.
Only the quiet minds pick up on the meaning.

 

[Patmos]

I speak in koans.
Only the quiet minds pick up on the meaning.

So you admit you are not a Christian! Why are you posting here ?

I must say, I am in total harmony with other Calvinist's views on this contributer.

 

[tulipbee]

So you admit you are not a Christian! Why are you posting here ?

I must say, I am in total harmony with other Calvinist's views on this contributer.

Silly thinking will make you ill

 

[Marvin Knox]

Total depravity is self explainatory !

Not really.

 

[Aldebaran]

I speak in koans.
Only the quiet minds pick up on the meaning.

ko·an
ˈkōän/
noun

1. a paradoxical anecdote or riddle, used in Zen Buddhism to demonstrate the inadequacy of logical reasoning and to provoke enlightenment.

It looks like you are posting in the wrong forum. You're not provoking enlightenment.

 

[tulipbee]

ko·an
ˈkōän/
noun

1. a paradoxical anecdote or riddle, used in Zen Buddhism to demonstrate the inadequacy of logical reasoning and to provoke enlightenment.

It looks like you are posting in the wrong forum. You're not provoking enlightenment.

Nope,
single words are meaningful.
When you talk too much you lose focus.
Now focus

 

[tulipbee]

Not really.

It's either black or white.
You need to stop your 50 shades of gray.
No need to be dominant.
Besides I'm a male too.
Keep you hands to yourself

 

[Aldebaran]

Nope,
single words are meaningful.
When you talk too much you lose focus.
Now focus

On what? (only 2 words there)

 

[Marvin Knox]

It's either black or white.

No it isn't.

One person may read the words total depravity and believe that it is being taught that unbelievers are as depraved as they can possibly be (utterly depraved).

When a Calvinist says those words they mean that every part of our being (body, soul and spirit) has been negatively effected by sin.

You need to stop your 50 shades of gray.
No need to be dominant.
Besides I'm a male too.
Keep you hands to yourself

You're also demonstrably un-Christian and perhaps even mentally ill.

 

[tulipbee]

On what? (only 2 words there)

Trace the source of your thoughts.
You may start by telling us what you're bickering about.

 

[Aldebaran]

Trace the source of your thoughts.
You may start by telling us what you're bickering about.

Your words
Your replies.

 

[tulipbee]

No it isn't.

One person may read the words total depravity and believe that it is being taught that unbelievers are as depraved as they can possibly be (utterly depraved).

When a Calvinist says those words they mean that every part of our being (body, soul and spirit) has been negatively effected by sin.

You're also demonstrably un-Christian and perhaps even mentally ill.

Calvinist knows God is in control
Man, like you, knows man is in control.
Big difference !
One can see
And
The other is blind, like you
Utterly is just a gimmick in traditional Calvinism.
Your single molecule is controlled by God. You can't run from it cause you're it

 

[tulipbee]

Your words
Your replies.

Those words were created by the molecules that can't be mavrick molecules.
There are no mavrick molecules.
.
.
Mavrick molecules don't exist liked you wish
Your wishes are fantasy. You watch too many movies

 

[Aldebaran]

Those words were created by the molecules that can't be mavrick molecules.
There are no mavrick molecules.
.
.
Mavrick molecules don't exist liked you wish
Your wishes are fantasy. You watch too many movies

Fatalistic thinking!
You fatalistic, no thoughts, doomed!
No reality!

 

[Aldebaran]

Calvinist knows God is in control
Man, like you, knows man is in control.
Big difference !
One can see
And
The other is blind, like you
Utterly is just a gimmick in traditional Calvinism.
Your single molecule is controlled by God. You can't run from it cause you're it

Man not control.
Man no think.
Therefore, not my fault.
What's the use?

 

[Marvin Knox]

Calvinist knows God is in control
Man, like you, knows man is in control.
Big difference !
One can see
And
The other is blind, like you
Utterly is just a gimmick in traditional Calvinism.
Your single molecule is controlled by God. You can't run from it cause you're it

You're also demonstrably un-Christian and perhaps even mentally ill.

I rest my case.