Calvinism, explained.

[Patmos]

Please show me where the Bible teaches about the 4th dimension and not understanding it meaning one is not saved. I have read the Bible several times but missed it completely.

Please put me right.

I am staggered that you know the mind of God and can determine if one is convicted and saved, or not.

The Bible I have must be a very poor imitation as it says this...

Matthew 7:1-3King James Version (KJV)
7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

I am very eager to here about this 4th Dimension.

 

[Patmos]

There is no benefit of salvation to unbelievers.
And further along that line of thinking, Christ only aids to salvation those who are Abraham's seed who are the children of God's promise, so they they are elect of God to be the saved.

This is really confusing. Surely salvation benefits unbelievers. Were we born believers ? John Calvin says no !

But staying in the present dimension, this is what the Bible says -

"Luke 15:10 In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents."


Amen

 

[Patmos]

You are reading things into the text that aren't there. It's never says that he was an unbeliever (I'm not saying he was), wanted to believe, or that he asked for guidance. Philip sought him out! Philip, on God's behalf, sought him.

her is another unbeliever wanting to believe -

The Conversion of the Jailer
…29And he called for lights and rushed in, and trembling with fear he fell down before Paul and Silas, 30and after he brought them out, he said, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?"31They said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household."…

 

[Patmos]

Thief on the Cross...

 

[tulipbee]

But the Bible says different...

"30 So Philip ran to him and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet and asked, “Do you understand what you are reading?” 31 And he said, “How can I, unless someone guides me?”

An unbeliever wanting to believe and asking for guidence.

God was involved

 

[tulipbee]

Please show me where the Bible teaches about the 4th dimension and not understanding it meaning one is not saved. I have read the Bible several times but missed it completely.

Please put me right.

I am staggered that you know the mind of God and can determine if one is convicted and saved, or not.

The Bible I have must be a very poor imitation as it says this...

Matthew 7:1-3King James Version (KJV)
7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

No one is saved yet til Jesus comes. But you can get in line though

 

[tulipbee]

I am very eager to here about this 4th Dimension.

You'll see when you go to the grave

 

[Patmos]

God was involved

And ?

 

[Patmos]

No one is saved yet til Jesus comes. But you can get in line though

You are certainly one rude and arrogant dude. Now, about the 4th Dimension ?

Or should I stick with the Bible!

 

[jimmyjimmy]

He was still an unbeliever wanting to believe. Here are some more-

"22 Paul then stood up in the meeting of the Areopagus and said: “People of Athens! I see that in every way you are very religious.23 For as I walked around and looked carefully at your objects of worship, I even found an altar with this inscription: to an unknown god. So you are ignorant of the very thing you worship—and this is what I am going to proclaim to you...........
34 Some of the people became followers of Paul and believed. Among them was Dionysius, a member of the Areopagus, also a woman named Damaris, and a number of others."

No one seeks after God. No, not one. Sinners are looking for God like a criminal is looking for a cop.

These are not examples of people seeking after the Living God. They are examples of people worshiping idols.

 

[Patmos]

No one seeks after God. No, not one. Sinners are looking for God like a criminal is looking for a cop.

I am not sure that should be taken so literally. I think the Bible, as I have quoted supports my thinking.

These are not examples of people seeking after the Living God. They are examples of people worshiping idols.

Please expand on this.

 

[jimmyjimmy]

I am not sure that should be taken so literally. I think the Bible, as I have quoted supports my thinking.


Please expand on this.

You used this passage as proof that people seek after God:

22 Paul then stood up in the meeting of the Areopagus and said: “People of Athens! I see that in every way you are very religious.23 For as I walked around and looked carefully at your objects of worship, I even found an altar with this inscription: to an unknown god. So you are ignorant of the very thing you worship—and this is what I am going to proclaim to you...........
34 Some of the people became followers of Paul and believed. Among them was Dionysius, a member of the Areopagus, also a woman named Damaris, and a number of others."

However, people being religious/spiritual is not proof of them seeking God, as no one does. It is however proof of idolatry.

For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.

24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, 25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.​

 

[tulipbee]

You are certainly one rude and arrogant dude. Now, about the 4th Dimension ?

Or should I stick with the Bible!

In the 4th demension, you meet Jesus. time is created to keep everything from happening at once. You're stuck in time cause you're to slow to pick it up. Calvinism multitasks and is light-years ahead of time. Arminianism is just dragging along in mnass confusion.

 

[tulipbee]

You are certainly one rude and arrogant dude. Now, about the 4th Dimension ?

Or should I stick with the Bible!

Not rude at all.

 

[EmSw]

No one seeks after God. No, not one. Sinners are looking for God like a criminal is looking for a cop.

These are not examples of people seeking after the Living God. They are examples of people worshiping idols.

Exodus 33:7
And Moses took the tabernacle, and pitched it without the camp, afar off from the camp, and called it the Tabernacle of the congregation. And it came to pass, that every one which sought the Lord went out unto the tabernacle of the congregation, which was without the camp.

2 Chronicles 14:7
Therefore he said unto Judah, Let us build these cities, and make about them walls, and towers, gates, and bars, while the land is yet before us; because we have sought the Lord our God, we have sought him, and he hath given us rest on every side. So they built and prospered.

2 Chronicles 15:4
But when they in their trouble did turn unto the Lord God of Israel, and sought him, he was found of them.

2 Chronicles 15:15
And all Judah rejoiced at the oath: for they had sworn with all their heart, and sought him with their whole desire; and he was found of them: and the Lord gave them rest round about.

2 Chronicles 26:5
And he sought God in the days of Zechariah, who had understanding in the visions of God: and as long as he sought the Lord, God made him to prosper.

Psalm 34:4
I sought the Lord, and he heard me, and delivered me from all my fears.

Psalm 77:2
In the day of my trouble I sought the Lord: my sore ran in the night, and ceased not: my soul refused to be comforted.

Psalm 119:10
With my whole heart have I sought thee: O let me not wander from thy commandments.

There are a whole lot of criminals seeking cops in the Old Testament.

Why not study before making such a statement?

 

[tulipbee]

And ?

What God wills, he will get. He knows who the elects are based on his will

 

[Patmos]

What God wills, he will get. He knows who the elects are based on his will

You seem good at missing the point of several contributors. Are you a 0 pointer ?

 

[tulipbee]

You seem good at missing the point of several contributors. Are you a 0 pointer ?

I'm a 5 pointer that lines with the Bible as proven with bible quotes

 

[Patmos]

In the 4th demension, you meet Jesus. time is created to keep everything from happening at once. You're stuck in time cause you're to slow to pick it up. Calvinism multitasks and is light-years ahead of time. Arminianism is just dragging along in mnass confusion.

I like Star trek as well.

 

[Patmos]

I'm a 5 pointer that lines with the Bible as proven with bible quotes

Yet when asked for Biblical references to your diatribe you have none !