Shelb5 said:
If you want to believe this then it is your prerogative to do so but as Wolseley already said in another thread, this is directed to the reformers and anyone who followed them at that time. It dos not apply to ANYONE NOW, the original reformers are all dead so the anathema is null and void. It was not for you but for John Calvin but as I said, believe what ever you want to.
Michele that just is not true. The church has never withdrawn those curses so they lay firmly on my head as one that left the church for the exact same reasons as the reformers..
These have never been rescinded
During the Second Vatican Council in Rome during 1962 to 1965 they formulated a document that said that they agreed with all of the previous doctrines that the previous councils had decreed.
Cannon I "If anyone denieth that, in the sacrament of the most holy Eucharist, are contained truly, really, and substantially, the body and blood together with the soul and divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ, and consequently the whole Christ; but saith that He is only therein as a sign, or in figure, or virtue; let him be anathema (cursed, ****** to hell)."
Cannon II, III, IV (Essentially a restatement of Cannon I, adding minute differences in details).
Cannon V If anyone saith either that the principal fruit of the most holy Eucharist is the remission of sins, or that other effects do not result therefrom; let him be anathema (cursed, ****** to Hell).
Cannon VI If anyone saith that, in the sacrament of the Eucharist, Christ. . . is not to be adored with the worship, even external, of latria; and is, consequently, neither to be venerated with a special festive solemnity, nor to be solemnly borne about in processions. . . or is not to be proposed publicly to the people to be adored and that the adorers are idolaters; let him be anathema (cursed, ****** to Hell).
Cannon VIII If anyone saith that Christ, given in the Eucharist, is eaten spiritually only, and not also sacramentally and really; let him be anathema (cursed, ****** to Hell).
Cannon XI If anyone saith that faith alone is a sufficient preparation for receiving the sacrament of the most holy Eucharist; let him be anathema (cursed, ****** to Hell). . . . this holy synod ordains and declares that sacramental confession, when a confessor may be had, is of necessity to be made beforehand, by those whose conscience is burdened with mortal sin, how contrite soever they may think themselves.
No time frame is given these remain universal curses
I would be really worried if I thought that the church had any power.