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[Warden_of_the_Storm]

From my research, that is what I see.

For instance, see:
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I see a lot of arguments from incredulity and a lot of Points Refuted A Thousand Times (PRATTs).

But that means creationism is only a viable theory TO YOU. Not exactly a stunning indictment that would see the world's scientists choose it over what they already have.

 

[setst777]

The theory of evolution doesn't say that one species of animal will become a different species of animal. It will still be the species that it is, in the suborder that it's from, in the family that it's from.
Your... basically a demand, is a very bad attempt at a 'gotcha!' said by people who really do not know what they are arguing against.

Not species, but kind.

If you say that evolution does not include creatures evolving into a different kind of creature, then I have no problem with this claim of evolution, since we then it would be totally in agreement with creation.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Not species, but kind.

If you say that evolution does not include creatures evolving into a different kind of creature, then I have no problem with this claim of evolution, since we then it would be totally in agreement with creation.

But the definition of Kind is so simple and basic that it's useless. Is a Whale a mammal or a fish Kind? Is a bat a mammal or a bird Kind?
Science doesn't deal with 'Kinds', it deals with species.

 

[setst777]

I see a lot of arguments from incredulity and a lot of Points Refuted A Thousand Times (PRATTs).

But that means creationism is only a viable theory TO YOU. Not exactly a stunning indictment that would see the world's scientists choose it over what they already have.

Since most schools, from grade school on up, teach evolution to its students, it is no wonder that, from a very young age, the mind is shaped to believe in the theory of evolution.

Romans 1:18-20
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Since most schools, from grade school on up, teach evolution to its students, it is no wonder that, from a very young age, the mind is shaped to believe in the theory of evolution.

Romans 1:18-20
18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

And then we get to the Bible verses.
You haven't got any science to back you up, that's plain to see. All you can do is rely on the old 'INDOCTRINATION!' canard and spew Bible verses.

 

[Hans Blaster]

From my research, that is what I see.

For instance, see:
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Like I said, that's all about a flood claim. The flood came *after* the creation. Where is the evidence for the creation of species by a deity?

 

[setst777]

And then we get to the Bible verses.
You haven't got any science to back you up, that's plain to see. All you can do is rely on the old 'INDOCTRINATION!' canard and spew Bible verses.

This is a Christian Message Board, so should there not be Bible verses? Do you expect even the Christian Message Boards to be Godless?

 

[Hans Blaster]

Since most schools, from grade school on up, teach evolution to its students, it is no wonder that, from a very young age, the mind is shaped to believe in the theory of evolution.

Because most schools are run by the government and the government is LEGALLY REQUIRED to be secular, and not back a religion, of course they don't teach the religious concept of creationsim. (Which is not a science.)

 

[setst777]

Because most schools are run by the government and the government is LEGALLY REQUIRED to be secular, and not back a religion, of course they don't teach the religious concept of creationsim. (Which is not a science.)

That is right, secular and Godless. So that is why they have been blinded.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

This is a Christian Message Board, so should there not be Bible verses? Do you expect even the Christian Message Boards to be Godless?

And this is the Physical and Life Sciences forum, where the discussion about science.

 

[Hans Blaster]

That is right, secular and Godless. So that is why they have been blinded.

Like any good government should be.

Did you know that the US was the first legally secular nation with the first legally secular constitution? (1787)

 

[setst777]

Like any good government should be.

Did you know that the US was the first legally secular nation with the first legally secular constitution? (1787)

Yes. That is a shame. But this fulfills prophesy.

Matthew 24:10-15 (NIV) 10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

 

[setst777]

And this is the Physical and Life Sciences forum, where the discussion about science.

Yes, but the Christian context of these boards cannot be ignored. Topics of discussion on this board do not kick God out of the forum.

 

[setst777]

And then we get to the Bible verses.
You haven't got any science to back you up, that's plain to see. All you can do is rely on the old 'INDOCTRINATION!' canard and spew Bible verses.

I provided Science facts, but you refused it and ignored it. Why? Because you obviously are not interested in the evidence, but rather to promote your own agenda; otherwise, you would have responded to the evidence I provided.

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[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Yes, but the Christian context of these boards cannot be ignored. Topics of discussion on this board do not kick God out of the forum.

No, that is true, but when you're talking about science... the Bible really does take a backseat since it isn't a scientific text or sourcebook, or even anything remotely scientific.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I provided Science facts, but you refused it and ignored it. Why? Because you obviously are not interested in the evidence, but rather to promote your own agenda; otherwise, you would have responded to the evidence I provided.

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And I told you what your 'evidence' is: arguments from incredulity and points that have been refuted a thousand times.
You're not the first person to argue creationism on this forum, and you will not be the last, but the claims never chance.

Also, 'evidence' for the Noahic Flood isn't evidence for Creationism or Creation.

 

[setst777]

No, that is true, but when you're talking about science... the Bible really does take a backseat since it isn't a scientific text or sourcebook, or even anything remotely scientific.

Christians would argue that God's record of events can be trusted, and so is legitimate evidence on this board.

 

[setst777]

And I told you what your 'evidence' is: arguments from incredulity and points that have been refuted a thousand times.
You're not the first person to argue creationism on this forum, and you will not be the last, but the claims never chance.

Also, 'evidence' for the Noahic Flood isn't evidence for Creationism or Creation.

That is not responding to the evidence. That is just a blanket denial of the evidence provided.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Yes. That is a shame. But this fulfills prophesy.

Matthew 24:10-15 (NIV) 10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

Did the founding of this republic and it's 1787 constitution correspond to a "turning away from the faith"? If not this "prophesy" is not, or at least doesn't apply to the secularity of the US.

 

[setst777]

I see a lot of arguments from incredulity and a lot of Points Refuted A Thousand Times (PRATTs).

But that means creationism is only a viable theory TO YOU. Not exactly a stunning indictment that would see the world's scientists choose it over what they already have.

You are making a blanket judgment without responding to the evidence provided. If that is how you win your arguments, then you are the proverbial ostrich who buries head in sand.