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Good questions. That is why we do not have all the facts.

Every object you have ever touched or seen is made of atoms, not dark matter. That is what the atomic theory of matter is about. The existence of something called 'dark matter' doesn't affect that conclusion. You said you didn't know what the atomic theory was, now you should.

Does that help you understand what a theory is?
 
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I notice that once again, you're unable or unwilling to substantiate your claims.

You said, "we have many examples of evolutionists, and also creationists, who have not only hidden data, but also falsified data to bolster their theory, which they believe to be true, but can't find the evidence."

I asked, "Many examples? how many can you name?"

So, how many examples? do you have citations? references? links?

This is an obvious fact to anyone who has any knowledge, or has debated, this subject. I did not save all my messages. So I am not going to do all the research again so you can just deny it anyway. But if you do deny it, be aware, for those who are seasoned in on this subject, you will look foolish.
 
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So what is a Hyena? It looks like a dog, but is from the feliformia (cat-like) suborder of mammals.

Hyenas, like house cats, are obviously descended from the pair of lions Noah took on the ark, right?
 
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Every object you have ever touched or seen is made of atoms, not dark matter. That is what the atomic theory of matter is about. The existence of something called 'dark matter' doesn't affect that conclusion. You said you didn't know what the atomic theory was, now you should.

Does that help you understand what a theory is?

When dark matter is studied in more detail, it could change the way we think about atoms and the substance of all things. We are not there yet, but just denying any possibility of the impact of dark matter does not alter that fact.
 
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Yes. I know what a hyena is. It is from the feliformia, the cat-like, suborder of mammals, but it has a distinctly non-catlike appearance to it.

So what Kind does it belong to?

My job is not to classify every kind of life form on earth.
 
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When dark matter is studied in more detail, it could change the way we think about atoms and the substance of all things. We are not there yet, but just denying any possibility of the impact of dark matter does not alter that fact.

First, it would have to be directly detected.

Second, it would have to be a particle.

Third, particle dark matter would not change the properties of the things we call atoms. If it could we would already have detected it or its impact on atoms. Copper atoms would still be 29 protons, 29 electrons, and a bunch of neutrons. They would still interact chemically the way they are known to do.
 
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My job is not to classify every kind of life form on earth.

And yet you seem very sure in yourself when you say that 'one kind of creature cannot evolve into another kind of creature'.
 
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Yes. I know what a hyena is. It is from the feliformia, the cat-like, suborder of mammals, but it has a distinctly non-catlike appearance to it.

So what Kind does it belong to?
Cheetahs have dog-like paws.
 
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That's not how science works. In science, the facts are the verified observational data. A hypothesis is a testable explanation proposed to account for the facts. A theory is a hypothesis that has been independently tested and verified and is widely accepted as the best explanation for the facts.

A scientific theory does not become a fact. Scientific theories are always provisional.

You're welcome.

I agree. Creation is a theory that is the best explanation of the facts, even though many are duped into believing in evolution. What is most popular does not mean it is most correct.
 
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I agree. Creation is a theory that is the best explanation of the facts, even though many are duped into believing in evolution. What is most popular does not mean it is most correct.

Explain who creationism is the theory that has the best explanation of facts. Because that is one heck of a huge claim to make and not back it up.
 
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Ironic, eh?

If you can show me evidence of one kind of creature turning into another kind of creature, then you have something in which to substantiate your theory.
 
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If you can show me evidence of one kind of creature turning into another kind of creature, then you have something in which to substantiate your theory.

The theory of evolution doesn't say that one species of animal will become a different species of animal. It will still be the species that it is, in the suborder that it's from, in the family that it's from.
Your... basically a demand, is a very bad attempt at a 'gotcha!' said by people who really do not know what they are arguing against.
 
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If you can show me evidence of one kind of creature turning into another kind of creature, then you have something in which to substantiate your theory.

A kitten is a kind of creature, right?

So is a tom cat a kind of creature, right?

Has anyone ever seen a kitten turn in to a tom cat?

Anyone? Bueller?
 
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