But We Abort Them

[drjean]

Ben Carson: We Called Ancient Civilizations Heathens Because They Sacrificed Babies, But We Abort Them
August 13, 2018 Global News

LifeNews.com reports: “Dr. Ben Carson has a way of putting things in perspective that endears him to pro-life activists. The neurosurgeon and the author of six best-selling books makes another compelling point about the issue of abortion that is sure to have everyone who opposes abortion concurring.

He pointed out how ancient civilizations have been criticized for the brutal practices of human sacrifice and child sacrifice — but he wonders if modern society isn’t ‘guilty of the same thing’ because we have legalized abortion.

‘Well, it’s interesting that we sit around and call other ancient civilizations heathen because of human sacrifice but aren’t we actually guilty of the same thing?’…”

http://www.lifenews.com/2014/08/06/...use-they-sacrificed-babies-but-we-abort-them/

https://www.jvim.com/ben-carson-we-...use-they-sacrificed-babies-but-we-abort-them/

 

[SkyWriting]

Ben Carson: We Called Ancient Civilizations Heathens Because They Sacrificed Babies, But We Abort Them

I guess they both are about imaging a better life for everyone.
But it's not as if Pro-Life groups orchestrate adoptions.
"Too much work" I guess.

 

[blackribbon]

I guess they both are about imaging a better life for everyone.
But it's not as if Pro-Life groups orchestrate adoptions.
"Too much work" I guess.

Adoptive parents are not hard to find.

 

[SkyWriting]

Adoptive parents are not hard to find.

Pro-life? people have scores of excuses to not actually help those in need.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I wonder how many woman have abortions because they don't want to have a child by 'that' man.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

I guess they both are about imaging a better life for everyone.
But it's not as if Pro-Life groups orchestrate adoptions.
"Too much work" I guess.

Isn't that the other side's job?

 

[blackribbon]

Pro-life? people have scores of excuses to not actually help those in need.

Adoptive parents are not hard to find for new babies. Even if there is no one lined up on the day of birth, our babies that are being adopted seldom stay more than a few days in the nursery before going home with new parents who are hoping to adopt the baby in their care.

 

[section9+1]

In biblical times people sacrificed their children to Molech with the hope their lives would be made better. Molech is still getting his children.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Why wonder ? To help lead to a solution ? (Biblically it doesn't matter why they (anyone) approves of murder - it is sin) Same with divorce, greed, and lies.

I wonder how many woman have abortions because they don't want to have a child by 'that' man.

 

[Quid est Veritas?]

In biblical times people sacrificed their children to Molech with the hope their lives would be made better. Molech is still getting his children.

While I agree with your sentiment, that aborting children to 'make your life better' is no different from child-sacrifice for gaining the favour of the gods, there is some debate here.

Many child sacrifices in Carthage and Syria-Palestine have been discovered, associated with ancient text referencing it, and using forms of MLK. Whether this should be interpreted as a god Molech is doubtful. It is possible this merely refers to the trinominal root for King (melek) so could refer to any god. It may refer to Melqart of Tyre, too. It is also possible this is a technical name for child sacrifice itself, which is what its use in Carthage for sacrifices to Tanit and Melqart suggest.
So Biblical references mean that perhaps the Hebrews were sacrificing their children to YHWH! Which is why it was even more abhorrent to the prophets.

 

[Albion]

Pro-life? people have scores of excuses to not actually help those in need.

That's the pro-abortion mantra, all right. The fact is that pro-life groups do much to help.

Who do you think operates most of the private adoption services? Mostly, it is the conservative churches/denominations as it long has been.

 

[Valetic]

In biblical times people sacrificed their children to Molech with the hope their lives would be made better. Molech is still getting his children.

If anyone scimmed over this post, I urge you to understand who this Molech is and how he is in our society today. No it may not appear people worship such a being, but this being is still influencing people and getting what he wants through peoples actions and abortion is one of them. People don't call it Molech today but we know it is the same spirit of anti God, anti life, and many other things that bring him honor and praise in todays world.

Molech isn't the only one out there either folks. People worship money and the old false God behind that is still at work and use there money to worship the gods of partying drunkenness debauchery and prostitution. It's a big orgy out there in today's world

 

[SkyWriting]

Adoptive parents are not hard to find for new babies. Even if there is no one lined up on the day of birth, our babies that are being adopted seldom stay more than a few days in the nursery before going home with new parents who are hoping to adopt the baby in their care.

Miles of excuses.....for not stopping murders.

 

[kiwimac]

In biblical times people sacrificed their children to Molech with the hope their lives would be made better. Molech is still getting his children.

No one is sacrificing anyone to Moloch. Moreover foetuses are not children.

 

[Apologetic_Warrior]

I guess they both are about imaging a better life for everyone. But it's not as if Pro-Life groups orchestrate adoptions. "Too much work" I guess.

While it's probably true not all pro-life groups orchestrate adoptions, I have heard of at least one Christian ministry with pro-life activism at planned parenthood clinics that will gladly orchestrate adoptions. See the video below, warning there is some language coming out of the mouth of the planned parenthood supporter. But the video supports the existence of at least one pro-life group willing to help orchestrate adoptions.

I kind of doubt Apologia Ministries is the only ministry willing to help with adoptions, but adoption statistics and sources of help wouldn't be an area of specialty for me.

 

[blackribbon]

No one is sacrificing anyone to Moloch. Moreover foetuses are not children.

What is a fetus if it isn't a human in baby form? Genetically it is the same as after it is born. It is just in a different developmental stage. It isn't the mother. It is a unique living being

 

[blackribbon]

Miles of excuses.....for not stopping murders.

??? What are you saying? Only live babies can be adopted. I am all for putting babies up for adoption if you are not in a place to care for yours. I am also for helping mothers who didn't plan on having babies any way necessary if they decide they want to keep their unplanned surprise. I am just not for taking the life of a baby because it is inconvenient.

 

[Quid est Veritas?]

No one is sacrificing anyone to Moloch. Moreover foetuses are not children.

These might have been Mulk sacrifices, a technical term for child sacrifice. This is exactly what people are doing today, sacrificing children in the hope for better material well-being. It is quite analogous.

Anyway, some Archaeologists argue that child sacrifice was a form of birth control to keep the population in check, family planning as it were. Especially in more drought prone and marginal areas. It therefore has much the same motivation as a poor family doing so.

I have even read articles where pro-abortion writers argue for infanticide on similar grounds. There is functionally no difference between the arguments that can be made for abortion or for infanticide.

 

[SkyWriting]

While it's probably true not all pro-life groups orchestrate adoptions, I have heard of at least one Christian ministry with pro-life activism at planned parenthood clinics that will gladly orchestrate adoptions. See the video below, warning there is some language coming out of the mouth of the planned parenthood supporter. But the video supports the existence of at least one pro-life group willing to help orchestrate adoptions. I kind of doubt Apologia Ministries is the only ministry willing to help with adoptions, but adoption statistics and sources of help wouldn't be an area of specialty for me.

I looked at Pro-Life groups online and found very few connections.
Saving babies lives just is not that important. I used to attend
Pro-Life rallies and events. Shaming and accusing is the focus.

 

[SkyWriting]

??? What are you saying? Only live babies can be adopted. I am all for putting babies up for adoption if you are not in a place to care for yours. I am also for helping mothers who didn't plan on having babies any way necessary if they decide they want to keep their unplanned surprise. I am just not for taking the life of a baby because it is inconvenient.

Then all Pro-Life advocates and groups would
focus on adoption. But that's inconvenient.
Endless excuses to not actually get involved
(financially) in the lives of others.

The solution is to focus on the evil of the women
making the lethal choices.