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BURYING THE DEAD

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BURYING THE DEAD



Just recently I buried my mother in 2015 and my father in 2016. I always feel that preservation of the body (bones) after death is important, but I was not completely sure of it. So I started to look at the Bible to find at least some clues about it, in order to know if the preservation of the bones important or not.



We know from the Bible that the resurrection from the dead will occur in the future, and actually already happened in the past (2Kings 4.32-37) (2kings 13.21), but it was a temporary resurrections not leading to complete immortality.



Because our soul (spirit) is immortal and need no resurrection, so the resurrection must be done in the body, and this means that the bones of the body must be preserved for the Day of Resurrection. Long ago, I thought that on the Day of Resurrection GOD will give us a completely new immortal body, but under close examination of Bible’s passages I came to conclusion that we actually need our own body (bones) for such event.



Isaiah 26.19
19.Your dead shall live, their corpses shall rise...



After this verse I found that and Ezekiel also wrote something really amazing describing his vision of dry bones. When Ezekiel commanded to dry bones to come together, they formed human bodies covered with flesh, but no life-giving spirit from GOD was in them, they had been just corpses. But when Ezekiel call for the spirit of life, when the life-giving spirit from GOD entered them and they are all came to life, literally, from their graves (Ezekiel 37.1-14).



Daniel 12.1-3

2.Many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake…



Hosea 6.2

2.He will revive us after two days, He will raise us up on the third day that we may live before Him.



Resurrection of the dead out of their graves also happened and during crucifixion of Jesus Christ.



Matthew 27.52-53

52.The tombs also were opened and many bodies of saints who had fallen asleep were raised.

53.After His resurrection they came out of the tombs and entered the holy city and appeared to many.



John 5.28

28.Do not be astonished at this, the hour is coming when all who are in their graves will hear His voice,



1Corinthians 15.52

52.in moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. The trumpet will sound and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.



All these passages clearly shown that the resurrection of the dead happens in the bodies (bones) of those who had been buried.

And not only bones of the dead can come to life, but some bones of the holy men of GOD can also give life to those who become dead. In this case it was the bones of Elisha that gave life to a dead man (2kings 13.21).



Can the Lord resurrect a person from the ashes of cremation, I am sure He can, no problem with that, but according to verses above, the proper way is to be resurrected from your own bones. And this is of course means, that the burial and preservation of the bones is very important for the resurrection of our body into immortality.



So the question will be, is the resurrected body will be completely different new immortal body or it will be old but completely renewed immortal body? To answer this question it is better to look in what kind of body Jesus Christ was resurrected. In His appearance to His disciples after His death He appeared to them in His old body that contained the wounds of the cross and of the spear. And He appeared in this renewed immortal body not only for the sake of those who did not believe in His resurrection from the dead, but also to show that He has full and complete power over the death, and that His body regenerated and His Spirit returned back to His original body which is cannot die and be destroyed anymore.



So exactly the same process will be and for the bodies (bones) of those who died and buried, their body will regenerate to a renewed immortal body and the spirit of the dead will enter their own bodies it in order to give the body new immortal life, as it was shown in Ezekiel 37.1-14, and with Jesus.



So, what the Bible said about cremation? Practically nothing, but in one place a cremation of the body was condemned (Amos 2.1).

But in another place of the Bible it was not condemned, because the bones of the priests of Baal was burned on their own altars (2Chronicles 34.5).



So according to all these messages and many other which I did not write here, the preservation of the body (bones) plays important part in the resurrection of immortal renewed body. I also understand very well that not everyone can afford a burial today, it was cost me a little fortune, but I do not mind, as long as my parents have a chance for resurrection from the dead. I also save some money for my own burial, but because no one left to bury me, I will place my burial into the hands of the Lord.



I also found very interesting commentaries from the Torah about burial of the dead, which is supports all my findings concerning this issue.


BURYING THE DEAD



The Torah. A Modern Commentary. Edited by W. Gunther Plaut.



“Quick burial of the deceased was a matter of great concern in the ancient Near East except in Egypt, where embalming was practiced. The natural process of decomposition was accelerated by the warm climate, and an abundance of birds and other animals that would feed on the cadavers demanded an early burial. One of the curses with which a wayward Israel is threatened is precisely this: “Your carcasses shall become food for all the birds of the sky and all the beasts of the earth, with none to frighten them off” (Deuteronomy 28.26) (Jeremiah 22.19).

The sight of unburied bodies was considered an offense not only against human dignity but against GOD Himself. Even a criminal who had been impaled (or hanged) was to be interred before sunset “for an impaled body is an affront to GOD: you shall not defile the land that the Lord your GOD is giving you to possess” (Deuteronomy 21.23).

In the Biblical conception of afterlife there was room to believe that in death one could be united with the past, especially if one would be buried in the ancestral plot. The acquisition of such a site usually or frequently a cave, was therefore of prime concern for Abraham after his wife’s death, and the Hittites from whom he purchased Machpelah were well aware of his need and exacted an exorbitant price from him (Genesis 23.15).

Jacob, though he lived in Egypt for 17 years and died there, was conveyed back to the cave of Machpelah, and Joseph implored his family not to leave his bones behind when the people would depart from Egypt (Genesis 50.25). Such burial assured the dead that they would “sleep with their fathers” and “be gathered to their kin” (1Kings 11.43) (Genesis 25.8).

The Bible neither reports nor requires a distinct ritual for interment; the only prescription is contained in Deuteronomy 21.23; expressed negatively, it commands not to leave the hanged person overnight, positively, to bury him the same day.

Coffins were not used, though in later centuries important personages were placed in stone sarcophag (Current practice in Israel prescribes burial in shrouds, without the use of coffins).

The custom of burning the dead (cremation) was not acceptable as a proper way of disposing of the dead. The story of Saul’s death provides an important exception, for the burning of his mutilated body by his followers was done to forestall further indignities, and the remains were buried thereafter (1Samuel 31.12-13; the account in 1Chrinicles 10.12 omits the burning). To be sure, one of the means of execution prescribed by the Torah was burning the condemned, but it is likely that, once death had occurred, the body was buried and, at most, only the entrails were consumed by fire.

In sum, the Bible reflects a deep-rooted respect for the human body, which even in death must be treated with care and consideration. To do so was to honor GOD in Whose Image humanity had been created.”
 

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Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. (John 3:6, 1984 NIV)

But someone may ask, “How are the dead raised? With what kind of body will they come?” How foolish! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies. When you sow, you do not plant the body that will be, but just a seed, perhaps of wheat or of something else. But God gives it a body as he has determined, and to each kind of seed he gives its own body. (1 Corinthians 15:35-38, 1984 NIV)

it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being” ; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit. The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual.
(1 Corinthians 15:44-46, 1984 NIV)

God won't be using more than a "seed" of our old bodies. However, the seed being talked about is probably along the lines of who we are, not molecules.
 
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I shudder to think that who or what and how some one handles your dead body has any impact on our resurrected bodies as who we are risen in Christ .. Does embalmment have anymore favorable affect on resurrection than cremation or by having your body eaten of worms or scavengers ? If our bones are dissolved but during our life we earned a crown will we not have a resurrected body resurrected incorruptible to wear the crown ? God knows us and is in charge of our resurrection , sleep tight with confidence and let the dead bury the dead is my point of view ..
 
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One can believe whatever they choose. Here is interesting paper on the subject, which I find to be sound.

THE DISPOSITION OF THE TABERNACLE OF FLESH
Thoughts By Robert DeWitt, 9/96​

The scriptural way to dispose of the body after death seems to be clearly burial. The world believes it is expedient to cremate bodies, but then what has a believer to do with world conformity? Fire speaks of judgment in the Word of God, and the child of God has passed from judgment unto life eternal. Why "turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? (Gal.4:9).

In the beginning God formed man from the ground, and in the end of man's life he shall return unto the ground: "In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return" (Gen.3:19). Burial has always been God's way, whether by entombment in a cave or interment in the ground. Both in the Old Testament and the New Testament it is clearly God's way for the "tabernacle of flesh" (the body of man), until the resurrection day (1 Cor.15:52; 1 Th.4:16).

As stated already, fire is a picture of judgment in the Word of God (see Josh.7:15; II Sam.23: 6,7), and therefore not suited to a Christian. Only the pagans burned the dead. We will not quote all the verses bearing on this subject, as one can easily find them in the Holy Scriptures. Suffice it to say the principle of God is burial. He buried Moses where no one could find him, instead of burning to hide the body.

God will surely be able to raise up all bodies, to join with the soul in the end, whether burned or buried; but to take steps, however, to destroy the body seems really a desecration, and denial of the holy and creative work of God and the plan of resurrection. "Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind" (Rom.14: 5), and seek to honor the Lord.

[One will hear teaching and diverse ministry along our pathway from many sources . One should always test it by the Word of God (see John 5:39; Acts 17:11; II Tim.2:15; II Tim.3:16; Titus 1:9). Whether it is profitable often depends, too, on our state of soul. This paper is prepared with much care and prayer to be a help and honor the Lord. Comments and questions are welcome.]

ADDENDUM 02/12: I don’t think we should rationalize about cremation, but see what is pleasing to God. If true believers do not seek to yield to the mind of God, and choose rather to do what is expedient, they could suffer loss at the "judgment seat of Christ" ---though their soul is saved. A believer with the new birth is not going to lose his/her salvation in any case. - RLD
 
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DeWitt is self-contradictory in one way and overall tries to make a non-issue into a spiritual one. He is trying to impose a burden on people that God has not (a very bad thing from Jesus' perspective [churches with excessive rules beware]). I agree that one must be convinced in his own mind, but that rule only applies for things that are neither clearly sins nor clearly not sins in the person's mind.

The earth and everything on it is fallen. It all must be destroyed (and ironically God will destroy them by fire). One could claim that desiring cremation is a way of honoring God who destroys everything tainted by sin. But it would be a false claim just like claiming burying is a way of honoring God but cremation does not. God judges the heart.

The addendum does not say anything incorrect, but is a little wonky. The idea that we should see what is pleasing to God is only the case if we see it as a moral issue, and even if it were, I don't know that God would count it as a sin if we never thought of seeking God's will on the matter. Suffering loss only happens due to sins. The last sentence is an OSAS issue, because (if one doesn't believe in OSAS), the believer could "lose" their salvation over this issue, because the judgment has nothing to do with what the believer chose to do, but rather what was in their hearts.

We are not our bodies. Our bodies are cloaks for the real us that are laid aside when we die. (Paul deals with some of this in 1 Corinthians 15 and the rest in other places) Everything that is the substance of who we are in spirit and soul is what survives and will be given a new body—nothing of our old body will survive, because it is tainted with sin. Even in the rapture, the change of the body "in a flash" is a death and recreation, because that which is tainted by sin can only be destroyed; it cannot be cleansed of sin.

What does matter to God is in what ways our culture honors or dishonors the dead, and then that is only because of its effect on the living. But even then it is what people choose to do based on their heart that is judged.
 
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4X4 asked “What about all the martyrs burned at the stake for Christ's sake”

Violent death of a person does not account, because a person has no control over it and beyond the ability to change his circumstances. And so for all those who perished in the fires, explosions (nuclear explosions for example), and in other similar ways in which hardly anything left from the body.

My post has absolutely nothing to do with spirituality, my post deals only with the dignity of human being and his physical body when it dies.

The Watchman made an excellent post in which he explained the issue better when I can even describe it.

And the point I would like to make is that if it possible and circumstances are favorable, the dead body has to be preserved and buried accordingly to the oldest tradition on Earth, means buried in the ground, in order to fulfill the Words of GOD, “Dust shall return to dust.”

View it as a ritual, just like a ritual of Baptism for example. Does Baptism matters if you already saved? Or circumcision if you already a child of GOD? They are just rituals of dignity and respect, and no matter if someone circumcised or not, or did not undergo Baptism but lived according to the Word and will of the Lord, surely saves his soul for eternity without any particular ritual. (“I desire mercy and not sacrifice”).

As it had been said that the dead physical bodies will be resurrected from the graves, so and in the graves our bodies shall be buried, and lay there until this great Day of resurrection will come.
 
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My post has absolutely nothing to do with spirituality, my post deals only with the dignity of human being and his physical body when it dies.
Your OP is an examination of the Scriptures. It couldn't be more spiritual. Perhaps what you mean is that you aren't trying to find a moral answer to the issue. However, if you are examining Scripture, it is unavoidable. You may be choosing to focus on what people in the Bible did, but to do that without seeing the moral implications would be a good trick.
the preservation of the body (bones) plays important part in the resurrection of immortal renewed body.
How is cremation not "returning to dust?"

The physical body plays no part at all in the resurrection of the immortal body. See post #2. A part of the passage which I quoted from is this:

I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. (1 Corinthians 15:50, 1984 NIV)
 
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Hi Greg

You are still mixing oranges and apples together, and I think it is no longer meaningful to continue talking about this subject. But I would make some last comments.

You wrote:

“How is cremation not "returning to dust?"

Cremation definitely is not returning to dust, because it is unnatural they to dispose the dead body. The physical body has to undergo its own corruption in its natural environment that it was made from (dust returns to dust, earth returns to earth, not ashes).

Acts 2.31

31.Foreseeng this David spoke of the resurrection of the Messiah, saying, ‘He was not abandoned to Hades, nor did His flesh experience corruption.’ (Psalms 16.10)


Psalm 16.10

10.You will not abandon my soul to Sheol, neither will You allow Your holy one to undergo decay.

As you can see from these verses, David was not intended to be cremated, nor any of the kings of Israel and Judah, nor anyone in the Bible expressed such wish.

You wrote:

“The physical body plays no part at all in the resurrection of the immortal body. See post #2. A part of the passage which I quoted from is this:
I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. (1 Corinthians 15:50, 1984 NIV)”

Actually our physical body indeed plays very important part in our physical resurrection, because as I already presented to you, the resurrection of the dead bodies into immortal physical bodies will happen from the graves, and Bible does not specified any other way of physical resurrection as from the graves - period.

And the quote you presented you took it out of its context, and it does not in any way relate to the subject we are discussing.

But Paul in your quote continued to elaborate on the theme of the chapter he wrote, indicating that nothing from the material physical world will ascend to the Spiritual Kingdom of GOD, but only spiritual qualities of our soul will inherit His Spiritual Kingdom. In other words, physical perishable cannot inherit imperishable spiritual, which is not the theme and the subject of my post, as I already explained before.

Again, it seems to me you did not read my first post there I clearly indicated that the dead bodies will be resurrected from the graves their buried in.


Isaiah 26.19
19.Your dead shall live, their corpses shall rise...
After this verse I found that and Ezekiel also wrote something really amazing describing his vision of dry bones. When Ezekiel commanded to dry bones to come together, they formed human bodies covered with flesh, but no life-giving spirit from GOD was in them, they had been just corpses. But when Ezekiel call for the spirit of life, when the life-giving spirit from GOD entered them and they are all came to life, literally, from their graves (Ezekiel 37.1-14)


Matthew 27.52-53
52.The tombs also were opened and many bodies of saints who had fallen asleep were raised.
53.After His resurrection they came out of the tombs and entered the holy city and appeared to many.


John 5.28
28.Do not be astonished at this, the hour is coming when all who are in their graves will hear His voice,

And so, appropriate resurrection of the mortal physical bodies will happen from the graves they are buried in, into immortal physical bodies. It is literally, a transformation from one form of existence into another, as it happen with the body of Jesus Christ, about Whom had been said “if we die with Him we will be resurrected with Him,” Means, from our graves.

The history of humankind has to take its full circle, from perishable Adam into imperishable Jesus Christ.
 
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