BREXIT: Revocation

[Tom 1]

If I were a Nationalistic Brexiteer, your post would be longer, with some refutes, As you can argue with great effect against their points

As an anti-Capitalist leaver, your responses to me offer no refutes, just a single lines, to the effect of, "oh you don't know what your on about".

You've got no argument, hence your posts have no refuting position. You want to show me how the E.U isn't mainly about serving Capitalist and Business interests? Say reasons why its not Capitalist in nature.

It’s a mixed bag. The EU does favour multi-nationals, but in terms of any negative effect this is more an issue for small and medium sized businesses than for the British worker, who is a sheep among the wolves in post Brexit Britain. If the U.K. had something like Germany’s Mittelstand to maintain that might be a significant issue, as it is we don’t, so it isn’t something that has a huge net effect. You mention unions, but any significant improvements in worker’s rights in recent decades are the direct result of EU regulations. The UK unions do a fine line in rhetoric and symbolic ‘victories’ but it’s a long time since they did anything useful that wasn’t initiated within the EU parliament. Nothing involving people is ideal, but the net benefits of being in the EU outweigh those of being out as far as I can see. It’s the boring choice, and doesn’t address all of the flim flam about ‘sovereignty’ but it’s a better option than the steady erosion of the NHS and worker protections under the tories, or a return to stultifying economic policies under labour.

 

[Ophiolite]

You've got no argument, hence your posts have no refuting position. You want to show me how the E.U isn't mainly about serving Capitalist and Business interests? Say reasons why its not Capitalist in nature.

You are the one making the claim, I think. Can you point me to the post where you support it with quality evidence.

 

[All Englands Skies]

You are the one making the claim, I think. Can you point me to the post where you support it with quality evidence.

I mean stating a view more than "You're uniformed"

As for quality evidence, I held off replying as I hate drudging through the internet "fact finding" when someone can go and read for themselves and form their own opinion.

But I read your post on another Brexit thread, where you convey the same feeling about gathering evidence for your own position and how you don't bother to do so, as you've formed your opinions over years and years and its too much hard work.

Thus, the same rules apply here for myself.

Also, its blatantly obvious the E.U is a free trade, capitalist bloc, that's a fact, the subjective area is if someone feels such a bloc is a good thing or not.

 

[Ophiolite]

But I read your post on another Brexit thread, where you convey the same feeling about gathering evidence for your own position and how you don't bother to do so, as you've formed your opinions over years and years and its too much hard work.

Thus, the same rules apply here for myself.

Go re-read that post. If I have made an assertion, as you did, I would provide supporting evidence. In this specific instance I was not making an assertion. I was expressing a personal viewpoint that offered an alternative reason for wishing to leave the EU. The only supporting evidence I could provide in that case would have been affidavits by those who know me that it was, indeed, my viewpoint.

As for quality evidence, I held off replying as I hate drudging through the internet "fact finding" when someone can go and read for themselves and form their own opinion.

That's lazy and discourteous, but if you are happy being so, it's OK with me.

Also, its blatantly obvious the E.U is a free trade, capitalist bloc, that's a fact, the subjective area is if someone feels such a bloc is a good thing or not.

Again you make an assertion without any support. Opinion only. It's interesting that many (most?) of our US friends consider the EU to be socialist. Certainly protection of workers' rights is vastly greater in the EU than the US. That's a fact, not an opinion. Environmental protection? Same differences.