Bottleneck Theory vs The Flood vs The Tribe of Benjamin

[miknik5]

Sure and there are people who heard HIS VOICE and drowned their children because HIS VOICE commanded it.

Don't believe everything you hear because there are hallucinations and delusions.

That's "another spirit"

Not GOD

 

[Skreeper]

That's "another spirit"

Not GOD

How would you know? If you hear a voice that claims to be God and asks of you to sacrifice your children as a sign of loyalty and faith you wouldn't do it? How can you differentiate between the ones who hear the REAL voice and the crazy ones?

 

[JD16]

That's "another spirit"

Not GOD

How do you know that? Could it be that they have heard of the story of Abraham and thought that God was 'testing' their faith? Why not? Since it is obedience to God that is paramount? Maybe they believe that since God told Abraham to do so, they believe that God would save their children and provide a sacrificial lamb? Just that it didn't work out too well in their case

 

[Heissonear]

Of course the day of the Lord hasn't happened yet. We're still here on this earth aren't we? The day of the Lord will destroy EVERYTHING on earth including melting the crust of the earth into a lake of fire.

May I say kindly you are mistaken, the Day of the Lord is presently happening. You will need to let the Holy Spirit open the Scriptures about this. What more can be destroyed than peoples relationships (or possible relationships) with Jesus? A nuclear weapon has nothing in comparison.

 

[miknik5]

How would you know? If you hear a voice that claims to be God and asks of you to sacrifice your children as a sign of loyalty and faith you wouldn't do it? How can you differentiate between the ones who hear the REAL voice and the crazy ones?

Because I know

And no, I wouldn't do it

GOD has given us all that is needed in HIS SON and we have all that is needed in HIS SON

 

[Skreeper]

May I say kindly you are mistaken, the Day of the Lord is presently happening. You will need to let the Holy Spirit open the Scriptures about this. What more can be destroyed than peoples relationships (or possible relationships) with Jesus? A nuclear weapon has nothing in comparison.

People claim the "Day of the Lord" has been happening for over 2000 years. That's a really long day, don't you think?

 

[Skreeper]

Because I know

Thanks for admitting defeat in this argument. Crazy people don't know that they're crazy. That's what makes them crazy.

 

[miknik5]

And because there is presently only ONE MINISTRY we have been called to

Thst other ministry, we have no part in

 

[miknik5]

People claim the "Day of the Lord" has been happening for over 2000 years. That's a really long day, don't you think?

Yeah we know that
Just as we know many will say where is this day?

 

[Skreeper]

And I I wouldn't do it
GOD has given all that is needed and we have all that is needed

So if you were Abraham you wouldn't sacrifice your child in the name of the LORD? I don't think your god would be too pleased to hear that.

 

[Heissonear]

Of course the day of the Lord hasn't happened yet. We're still here on this earth aren't we? The day of the Lord will destroy EVERYTHING on earth including melting the crust of the earth into a lake of fire.

For example in a simple misapplication to this very times of the Day of the Lord: why refer to everything onEarth going to be destroyed when the parable of the four soils and other Scriptures show how soil is but a shadow. Destruction of soil is greater than nuclear weapon detonation in our misdt.

 

[miknik5]

So if you were Abraham you wouldn't sacrifice your child in the name of the LORD? I don't think your god would be too pleased to hear that.

That call was a shadow pointing to the ONE and ONLY acceptable offering before the throne of GOD

Try bringing something else and you'll be damned

Is that clear enough?

 

[Heissonear]

The OP lists Scriptures implying catastrophe. The Day of the Lord is the same. Catastrophic to all soil not receiving His Seed. Rather, prey to the Powers of Darkness in our midst, and what they bring to pass upon generations. Most do not know of the peril they are in. And how they have been made spiritually poor, blind, and naked. For most the physical is all that is of concern. For those the Day of the Lord has ......

 

[Skreeper]

That call was a shadow pointing to the ONE and ONLY acceptable offering before the throne of GOD

Try bringing something else and you'll be damned

Is that clear enough?

God tested Abraham's faith by demanding a sacrifice and if god hadn't stopped him from killing his child, he would have done it.

Are you telling me you would have acted differently if you were in Abraham's shoes?

 

[dmmesdale]

Science works with the best info at the current moment, and its a self correcting process. Its constantly updated.

We are not talking about the exacting type of science which provides current technology but historical which is far less exacting.

Unless you want to go with a 2k old manuscript written by man who thought that diseases were caused by possession....go for it...

Don't think they ruled it out. Many in science brought on to the little men in sperm (preformism?) and reading bumps on heads (phrenology) so what is your point? Highlighting the one while ignoring the other? Actually, the Old is related to disease prevention in the form of healthy diet, sanitation practices, and sex practices etc. Ezek 4:9 bread is in health food stores. Relative to ancient Egyptian sources which contain unhealthy practices using urine and feces as treatments, totally absent in the Old. Also, Moses was raised in Egyptian culture. So your view is jaundiced and ill-informed. The Old was far advanced for its time.

 

[JD16]

We are not talking about the exacting type of science which provides current technology but historical which is far less exacting.

And how is that relevant to my statement that science is a self correcting process?

Don't think they ruled it out. Many in science brought on to the little men in sperm (preformism?) and reading bumps on heads (phrenology) so what is your point?

My point is that the bible is irrelevant to the progress of science, wasn't that clear enough?

 

[dmmesdale]

And how is that relevant to my statement that science is a self correcting process?

What science? Science encompasses a wide field of studies. What internet atheists tend to do is justify their inferior creation myths by attaching them onto the prestige of operational sciences which drives technology and does not survive on grant money. The provided points were made in the parts you ignored.

My point is that the bible is irrelevant to the progress of science, wasn't that clear enough?

So is evolution and all life from nonlife. Unless you can show how the modern advances would have been impossible (Penicillin and double helix for example) absent an extensive knowledge of evolution and abiogenesis (life from nonlife). As it is it has no more relevance then an extensive knowledge of ancient Egyptian economics applies to modern economics.

 

[sfs]

What internet atheists tend to do is justify their inferior creation myths by attaching them onto the prestige of operational sciences which drives technology and does not survive on grant money.

What creationists tend to do is invent terms like "operational science" and use them to denigrate any science they don't like, and pretend that real scientists are all atheists. I have to admit, though, that your last accusation is a new one by me: I've never heard anyone claim that real science isn't funded by grant money. So in your world, astronomy, particle physics, nuclear physics, genetics, research into treatments for malaria and Ebola, meteorology, geology -- none of those are real science. Interesting place, your world.

 

[miknik5]

God tested Abraham's faith by demanding a sacrifice and if god hadn't stopped him from killing his child, he would have done it.

Are you telling me you would have acted differently if you were in Abraham's shoes?

Are you telling me that GOD was not in control of the situation?
Are you telling me that a man who does what is wrong will be able to justify himself before GOD telling GOD but it was you who told me to do these evil things?

That falls under blaspheming the HOLY SPIRIT which is the unforgivable sin

 

[miknik5]

Everything we perceive with our created senses is nothing but a formed illusion ( fake bodies and world ) that is happening in each mind of man. This is why the 1,000 year reign of Christ was necessary to learn how we were created from the thoughts of our Creator. It's impossible to turn invisible thoughts into hard physical matter ( material things ). However, we have computer programmers today who can use thoughts and convert them into visible objects that show up on a computer screen and make robots move and print 3D objects, etc.

The technology that our Creator used to create with was much more advanced than anything that us fake human beings have built within the program.

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Yet not all are born of HIS SPIRIT
Therefore not all have the "mind of CHRIST"

Thankfully because the LORD has given us of HIS SPIRIT, we are able to discern not only THE TRUTH on all things but the lack of truth as well

it is THE SPIRIT who seeks the hidden things of GOD and it is THE SPIRIT who reveals the hidden things of GOD.

For who can know the thoughts of THE LORD to instruct HIM?


But we have the mind of CHRIST