BLM Protests Cop's Wedding

[Ana the Ist]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/black-...-crash-wedding-of-cop-who-shot-stephon-clark/

Here's the short version for those of you unwilling to read a short article (and I, unwilling to copy and paste any of it)...

BLM managed to find out the name of one of the cops who shot Stephon Clark. They then found out from his social media posts, that he was getting married....and decided to show up where the ceremony was being held to "protest".

Supposedly, the "protest" was confrontational, but non-threatening (though I don't know if the wedding party felt that way)....with the stated goal of making this cop "uncomfortable."

Personally, I think this is a bad look for BLM...a group with waning support, lack of direction, and an image problem. For those who don't remember, the shooting of Stephon Clark was a controversial incident because he was found to be unarmed. Footage of the incident supposedly isn't conclusive....being both dark and somewhat distant....and doesn't necessarily support or refute the cop's account.

Safe bet is the cops won't even be indicted...but if they are, I would imagine it's just for the perception of justice and a foregone conclusion.

Any thoughts on the "protest"?

 

[Hank77]

I wouldn't participate in a protest at a wedding, funeral, children's event, at a church, and maybe a few other places or events that haven't come to mind right now.
Just bad form.

 

[Ana the Ist]

I wouldn't participate in a protest at a wedding, funeral, children's event, at a church, and maybe a few other places or events that haven't come to mind right now.
Just bad form.

Seems like the kind of activity that, until now, was solely the domain of groups like Westboro Baptist.

It's a curious justification for it too...making a specific person "uncomfortable". Why? What's the goal there? To further alienate this guy from the community?

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

It's a curious justification for it too...making a specific person "uncomfortable". Why? What's the goal there? To further alienate this guy from the community?

Anything to get back in the news? Since the last presidential election, we haven't heard much about BLM, probably because the new president sucked up all the coverage...

 

[Dicran]

I'm not familiar with the Stephen Clark thing ~ it could be something ~ not many are ```

Blab Lies masters ~ seem like a monster ~ showing up at a wedding screaming and threatening ~ that's a great thing to have happen on your wedding day ```

Can you imagine how non confrontational it would be with a yelling filthy language mob ~ spitting ~ swinging signs in their faces ~ I've seen videos of how they act out ~ not much reason to think they would clean up their act here ```

Our police have a tough row to hoe ~ a single officer or two trying to check for weapons in a car with four guy inside and a mob ~ screaming , spitting , throwing rocks ~ trying to watch for use of a weapon from the car ~ with all the crazy going on around you ~ tough job ~ knowing if don't react ~ you're dead ~ if you do everyone there will try to make you bad ~ tough job ~ God help them ```

 

[EmmaCat]

I don't care if it's BLM or anyone. Stalking someone at their wedding to which they were not invited is completely wrong.

Leave people alone, let the justice system do its thing as it will.

All good things
Emmy

 

[KCfromNC]

Any thoughts on the "protest"?

Hey, the cops chose their lifestyle. It is just religious freedom and freedom of expression turning that sort of wedding into a political stunt, e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masterpiece_Cakeshop_v._Colorado_Civil_Rights_Commission

 

[Ana the Ist]

Hey, the cops chose their lifestyle. It is just religious freedom and freedom of expression turning that sort of wedding into a political stunt, e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masterpiece_Cakeshop_v._Colorado_Civil_Rights_Commission

I'm not sure what you're saying...

I don't think anyone thinks what BLM did was illegal, nor do I see what the connection is to the case you linked.

 

[Chesterton]

I don't think anyone thinks what BLM did was illegal,...

They were disturbing the peace. In so many words, they said that was their goal. BLM has the right to peaceably assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. They don't have the right to make individuals "uncomfortable" at a private gathering.

 

[Ana the Ist]

They were disturbing the peace. They said that was their goal. BLM has the right to peaceably assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. They don't have the right to make individuals "uncomfortable" at a private gathering.

They said that "disturbing the peace" was their goal?

 

[Chesterton]

They said that "disturbing the peace" was their goal?

lol, I edited that right before you posted. They said they wanted to make him uncomfortable.

 

[JCFantasy23]

I wouldn't participate in a protest at a wedding, funeral, children's event, at a church, and maybe a few other places or events that haven't come to mind right now.
Just bad form.

Same. They may dislike the, but protesting at a wedding and ruining the day of all the people and families involved is just trashy.

 

[usexpat97]

They were disturbing the peace. In so many words, they said that was their goal. BLM has the right to peaceably assemble,

The right to peaceably assemble includes the right not to be baited into fighting, and the right not to be accused of violence every time someone out there thinks you sneezed wrong.

He identified the cop who shot an unarmed black man DEAD. The cop was lucky he wasn't shot. His new wife might still have a target on her back. I'd say protesting at his wedding was very tame compared to what the cop did. Doesn't seem like the justice system is working very well when a second-degree murderer is allowed to go on and marry.

 

[Chesterton]

The right to peaceably assemble includes the right not to be baited into fighting, and the right not to be accused of violence every time someone out there thinks you sneezed wrong.

First, can you provide a reference to support that, and second, what are you talking about? Do you have some information the article didn't provide?

He identified the cop who shot an unarmed black man DEAD.

No, they invaded and disrupted a private gathering.

The cop was lucky he wasn't shot. His new wife might still have a target on her back.

I guess that's how Ecuador works? We try to aim a bit morally higher up here.

I'd say protesting at his wedding was very tame compared to what the cop did.

I'd say they are two utterly different things, not fit for comparison.

Doesn't seem like the justice system is working very well when a second-degree murderer is allowed to go on and marry.

First degree murderers are allowed to marry in most states. But that's beside the point because he hasn't been convicted of murder.

 

[usexpat97]

No, they invaded and disrupted a private gathering.

Yeah, boo hoo. The cop shot Stephon DEAD. He will never be able to marry. And now, the poor cop was made "uncomfortable" on his big wedding day!

Cry me a river. The cop never should have been in a wedding to begin with. He should be in jail.

 

[Ana the Ist]

The right to peaceably assemble includes the right not to be baited into fighting, and the right not to be accused of violence every time someone out there thinks you sneezed wrong.

Can't say I've ever heard of those rights...where are you getting this from?

He identified the cop who shot an unarmed black man DEAD. The cop was lucky he wasn't shot.

Indeed...although one could argue that was never really a possibility since he wasn't armed.

His new wife might still have a target on her back.

Why? What did she do?

I'd say protesting at his wedding was very tame compared to what the cop did. Doesn't seem like the justice system is working very well when a second-degree murderer is allowed to go on and marry.

So he's guilty before the trial? Before the investigation ends?

Who gets to decide that?

 

[Ana the Ist]

Yeah, boo hoo. The cop shot Stephon DEAD. He will never be able to marry. And now, the poor cop was made "uncomfortable" on his big wedding day!

Well, let's be honest...judging by his record, and his activities the night of the shooting, getting married wasn't exactly high on Stephon's list of priorities.

He was into robbing and victimizing his community. That's why they called the police on him.

Cry me a river. The cop never should have been in a wedding to begin with. He should be in jail.

Who decides that?

 

[usexpat97]

Who decides that?

Judging by video of their entire city council and the DA, white people do.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Judging by video of their entire city council and the DA, white people do.

I don't think "white people" decided the cop should be in jail. I think you missed the point....

....but since you were listing off "rights" in that first post, surely you believe in the right to a fair trial? The right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty?

Or are you all about that lynch mob style of "justice" where angry people determine guilt and innocence?

 

[dgiharris]

Any thoughts on the "protest"?

My thoughts are that unless Law Enforcement and the Justice Department take real concrete steps to reform the Justice System in this country, that things will get worse for both cops and the public.

My biggest fear with police is that one day, a police officer is going to kill the wrong innocent person-- the brother of a Navy Seal, the father of a weapon's system specialist for the military. the son of a Intelligence officer. These people are not going to buy the normal "Opps, thought I saw a gun and I feared for my life" excuse that the public normally falls for. My biggest fear is that the police department do the standard "Stand by our guy" thing for a bad shoot and that the aforementioned people ban together with the goal of waging war on the police via domestic terrorism.

Of course, the law of unintended consequences will mean that the above action will make police even more paranoid and trigger happy and quicker to "fear for my life" resulting in more innocent deaths and/or mistreatment of citizens.

Very quickly we get a runaway effect of citizens waging war on police and police becoming more and more totalitarian.

Back to this protest. Yes, it is in bad taste, yes a lot of people will think it was a bad idea...

But the truth is, a protest at a wedding is nothing compared to the death of an innocent citizen.

EDIT: Full disclosure, I'm not familiar with this incident, the above is more or less my generalized rant about these sorts of things.