BLM and ANTIFA protests....

[Speedwell]

Again, see the OP. I'm not denying they exist, but we know they only make up a fraction of the instigators of that 7%.

You're wasting bandwidth, Strathos. To these people BLM is a highly unified and aggressive Marxist organization and ANTIFA is an integral part of it. They won't listen to anything else.

 

[Erik Nelson]

Again, see the OP. I'm not denying they exist, but we know they only make up a fraction of the instigators of that 7%.

• "no serious harm" != "no harm"
• 7% of protests != protestors

 

[Erik Nelson]

You're wasting bandwidth, Strathos. To these people BLM is a highly unified and aggressive Marxist organization and ANTIFA is an integral part of it. They won't listen to anything else.

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[Strathos]

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• "no serious harm" != "no harm"
• 7% of protests != protestors

So you think the majority of protestors were all concentrated in the few violent protests?

 

[Speedwell]

So you think the majority of protestors were all concentrated in the few violent protests?

Which burned down entire cities while the police were ordered to stand by and do nothing.

 

[Erik Nelson]

Media's Obsession With Jan. 6 'Extremely Frustrating' to Law Enforcement: Retired Sergeant

Radical anarchist violence began 150 years ago, with the Haymarket riot bombing in Chicago in 1886, continuing with Pres. McKinley’s assassination in 1901 (cp. James’ Garfield’s 1881 assassin had once been in a free-love commune), and to the bombing of Wall St. in 1920. Fixating on Jan. 6 gives dangerous latitude to organizations with 150 years of violent pedigree.

“Hey, look, over there, look!” ​

Meanwhile… (?)

Antifa are not new -- more like "Haymarket 2.0" revised & updated, yet from the same stream of ideology

Research Guides: Anarchist Incidents (1886-1920): Topics in Chronicling America: Introduction

 

[Desk trauma]

Yeah, how dare there be attention paid to an insurrection at the capital, focus on the fringe of the fringe!

 

[rambot]

Which burned down entire cities while the police were ordered to stand by and do nothing.

"Burned down entire cities"; "police were ordered to stand by and do nothing". Tone down the hyperbole if you want to make a point, I'd suggest.

Media's Obsession With Jan. 6 'Extremely Frustrating' to Law Enforcement: Retired Sergeant

Radical anarchist violence began 150 years ago, with the Haymarket riot bombing in Chicago in 1886, continuing with Pres. McKinley’s assassination in 1901 (cp. James’ Garfield’s 1881 assassin had once been in a free-love commune), and to the bombing of Wall St. in 1920. Fixating on Jan. 6 gives dangerous latitude to organizations with 150 years of violent pedigree.

“Hey, look, over there, look!” ​

Meanwhile… (?)

Antifa are not new -- more like "Haymarket 2.0" revised & updated, yet from the same stream of ideology

Research Guides: Anarchist Incidents (1886-1920): Topics in Chronicling America: Introduction

What a disaster of a post:
1)"Retired Sergent". Wow. He probably recognized a whole bunch of his buddies at the insurrection that tried to, you know, overthrow the DULY ELECTED government and wants the heat lamp off of them. I'm not at ALL surprised cops "are tired" of seeing it on the news. Why were the cops so upset about it?
Boy I wish I could read it but the epoch times is paywall blocked. I'm sure I'm missing out on some quality reporting. Perhaps you could answer my question for me.
Are the cops upset because they get bothered by hearing about the cops who died?
I'm not really interested in the head of a police union's opinion. Cause yeah, as I mentioned, there

2) ROFL! I don't know if you know what an "anarchist" is but they like to overthrow the government. Any kind of idea of anyone hwo tried to overthrow their government? Maybe on January 6?

3) If it was ACTUALLY antifa walking around the Capitol building, you'd be absolutely frothing at the mouth; as well you should. As well EVERYONE should.
It's pathetic folks choose to ignore this for what it is.

4) Your weak point is embarrassing. Suggesting that 1880-1920 is indicative if what is happenning with antifa right now is just, beyond misguided. To suggest it's a "pattern" because of that is stupid. To suggest the antifa we see now is anything like that is just as stupid.

 

[rjs330]

For #1, try the link in the OP of this thread.

For #2, several examples are documented here.

For #3, it's just human nature.

For #4, I suspect you don't require any evidence.

LOL
Yeah we know that there were literally thousands of those secret agents. In comparison to those ten to twenty Antifa or BLM supporter rioters.

 

[Strathos]

LOL
Yeah we know that there were literally thousands of those secret agents. In comparison to those ten to twenty Antifa or BLM supporter rioters.

Well the statistics in the OP do seem to suggest it...

Again, not saying that they don't exist or that they don't instigate riots. Some of the riots in January seemed to be Antifa caused, although it would certainly help to have a steady update of reports about arrests like in the capitol riot consequences thread.

 

[Erik Nelson]

1)"Retired Sergent". Wow. He probably recognized a whole bunch of his buddies at the insurrection

evidence???

You treat your own wild speculations as proven fact

Circular non-logic

 

[Erik Nelson]

Yeah, how dare there be attention paid to an insurrection at the capital, focus on the fringe of the fringe!

According to the expert Law Enforcement Professionals, 99% of violent acts = Antifa + BLM

 

[rambot]

evidence???

You treat your own wild speculations as proven fact

Circular non-logic

No I don't.
I assume people read somewhat credible news sources and are versed in the BASIC facts of events like an insurrection. Clearly, I have made the mistake of VASTLY overestimating in this instance.


Here Are The Police Officers And Other Public Employees Arrested In Connection To Capitol Riot

Stop quoting garbage.

 

[Desk trauma]

According to the expert Law Enforcement Professionals, 99% of violent acts = Antifa + BLM

Well, best let all the capital insurrectionist go free in that case.

 

[Desk trauma]

Media's Obsession With Jan. 6 'Extremely Frustrating' to Law Enforcement: Retired Sergeant

Radical anarchist violence began 150 years ago, with the Haymarket riot bombing in Chicago in 1886, continuing with Pres. McKinley’s assassination in 1901 (cp. James’ Garfield’s 1881 assassin had once been in a free-love commune), and to the bombing of Wall St. in 1920. Fixating on Jan. 6 gives dangerous latitude to organizations with 150 years of violent pedigree.

“Hey, look, over there, look!” ​

Meanwhile… (?)

Antifa are not new -- more like "Haymarket 2.0" revised & updated, yet from the same stream of ideology

Research Guides: Anarchist Incidents (1886-1920): Topics in Chronicling America: Introduction

In 1963 there were 113 murder in Dallas Texas, it's unconscionable that people insist on focusing on that one guy that got shot November 22.

 

[rambot]

According to the expert Law Enforcement Professionals, 99% of violent acts = Antifa + BLM

Well according to them. But who cares? BLM protesting the police and the police don't like it so they mass arrest people. It's almost like the police are trying to prove the BLM protestors right; that police reform in the US is DESPERATELY needed.

But what do the courts, the place where people's actions are put up against the constitution, have to say about it?
They have this to say:
Why Charges Against Protesters Are Being Dismissed by the Thousands

According to FBI and CIA, far right violence is much more of a threat to the US than either Antifa or blm.

 

[stevil]

Nearly all Police encounters with black people do not result in them killed despite the narrative from BLM, reports find.

I've never heard this narrative before.
Sounds like a strawman.

 

[Erik Nelson]

BLM has reported receiving $90M in 2020:

BLM's MASSIVE Cash Haul Revealed! You Wont Believe What they Show

 

[Erik Nelson]

Rep. Steube reveals Antifa-BLM riots, which have damaged Federal property (including numerous Post Offices and injured postal workers), are termed "community uprisings" and "peaceful protests":

 

[Ken-1122]

I've never heard this narrative before.
Sounds like a strawman.

You've never heard the claim that the cops consider it open season on the black man, or that black people are afraid of the police? Have you not been paying attention?