There isn't anything inconsistent about what I said. His policies did help blacks but that doesn't mean they were directed at a specific race.Earlier, you said
then later you said
then after that you said
That's a pretty big retreat.
Well, I did post an entire list in the Atlantic article earlier. There are plenty of other examples, which have been discussed previously.
There isn't anything inconsistent about what I said. His policies did help blacks but that doesn't mean they were directed at a specific race.
his policies as President specifically helped blacks
Can you provide evidence of "a long and well documented racism. There are many well known blacks who have known Trump for a long time that do not agree with your conclusion. I understand that there was plenty of MSM attempts to paint Trump as a racist but without any evidence.Trump questioned Obama's citizenship because he is a black man. Trump has a long, well-documented history of racism. Your claim of "Look, here are a handful of blacks whose citizenship Trump hasn't questioned" is hardly a counterexample. There are plenty of people that Ted Bundy didn't murder, but Bundy was still a mass murderer.
You apparently have difficulty understanding logic and context. When a policy results in a substantial reduction in unemployment for a particular group, that policy may not be specific to that group but it specifically helps that group.So, just to clarify, when you said
you meant that his policies didn't specifically help blacks. Is that right?
Why would you think they would act any different from any other race? What your doing here is racist by making derogatory assumptions based on the color of their skin. Do some blacks act this way? Yes, do all of them act this way? No. Don’t judge a book by its cover brother. I know that you and I don’t like it when others do it to us either.
Most book covers generally represent what is in the book.
Really, how so?
The problem with "black culture" is that it's what I call a "chit'lin' culture." I didn't understand what Malcolm X meant back when I was a kid in the 60s; I understand him better now.
What is a "chit'in' culture?" Chitterlings are the intestines of swine. They are nasty, filled with feces, generally considered garbage. During slavery, the masters got the choice portions of the hog, the slaves got maws, feet, tails, and entrails. The slaves learned to pick away the most noxious parts of the chit'lin's very, very carefully, boil them very hard, season them very heavily to make them palatable and not immediately deadly.
The same happened with culture. Slavers stripped the kidnapped Africans of their own cultures, but allowed them to have only the entrails of American culture. Slaves--and freedmen as well--were not allowed to participate in the "choice cuts" of American culture. For that portion of American culture they were allowed, they picked away the most noxious parts very carefully, boiled it very hard, and seasoned it very heavily to make it palatable and not immediately deadly.
But the basic truth about both chitterlings and American culture for black people: It's not nutritious and ultimately unhealthy. Malcolm X understood that and thus advocated that blacks cake a top-to-bottom critical examination of the culture that we had so long strive to emulate and join, in fact, to reject it and develop a "for us, by us" culture that was actually beneficial to our American situation.
He thought Islam presented such an alternative culture. I disagree because I know Jesus is real. But I agree that American black people need that top-to-bottom critical review of what we call "African-American culture" that would ultimately involve rejecting a great deal of it.
Even as Christians, I think American black people should do that top-to-bottom critical examination of the way white people have taught us to "do church." Not the basic doctrines, but how as Christians we relate to one another and to the society at large. What's good for the dominant ethnic group is not necessarily good for everyone in it. "African-American culture" is a broken culture, and it's always been broken.
For instance, American Christians tend to look at poverty as being the fault of the impoverished. From the early and general acceptance of the un-biblical "God helps those who help themselves" to the modern "if you're poor, it's because you don't have enough faith," the poor are most quickly presumed to be poor by their own fault.
These Christians will point to, generally, verses from Proverbs to prove their point. However...Proverbs was written during the Israel Monarchy. At that time, Israel was the Promised Land flowing with "milk and honey." The Mosaic Law had specific provisions to prevent the kinds of accumulated debt, permanent transfer and accumulation of wealth, and other things that would create a permanent poverty class. In Solomon's time, it was probably true that if an Israelite was poor for very long, it was probably his fault.
By the time of Jesus, that system was broken. Jesus was aware that the poor were poor because of systematic economic oppression...which continues to this day even more efficiently.
That's the kind of thing black people need to look at closely even in the way that we do church. The Western European form of Christianity is not the only form to consider.
I have read many books whose covers do a good job of representing what's in the book. Of course we're talking about what is obvious about any situation. Most of the time what is observably obvious contains much truth. Digging deeper usually confirms those impressions.
While I don’t entirely disagree with this I think this may be describing a slightly different scenario. I mean are we talking about judging people by the way they present themselves or are we talking about judging people solely based on their color? Surely you can’t determine the contents of a book solely based on the color of its cover.
Certain behaviors and habits are often characteristic of certain ethnicities, thus certain prejudices arise. These are general observations however and don't apply to every individual. However problematic behaviors are assigned to the group-at- large, such as education, health, crime, etc.
Well I doubt anyone would put Lil John in a seat at the table to represent the black community. Your over-generalizing. Typically we try to put people of integrity in such a position, unfortunately that’s not common quality found in most politicians.
Or in most activists.
You've made some good points. However, black economic failure, which is the basis of most of their complaints, is their own doing. They have resisted the elements of success that have built western society. The Civil Rights Acts of the 1960's saw the collapse of the black economy and the biggest transfer of wealth from blacks to whites in our history. It continues to this day as blacks shun black owned businesses, spending over 90 percent of their income on products produced and sold by white businesses. Money earned by blacks doesn't benefit the black community but is quickly spent in white owned stores for white produced products and services.
Blacks have the capacity as never before to build a strong black economy, if they could only grasp the vision needed.
If so much black wealth transfer to whites, why did black wealth increase since that time?The Civil Rights Acts of the 1960's saw the collapse of the black economy and the biggest transfer of wealth from blacks to whites in our history.
Is it safe to assume what you are calling “white owned businesses” are actually businesses owned by whites, blacks, and brown people?It continues to this day as blacks shun black owned businesses, spending over 90 percent of their income on products produced and sold by white businesses.
What are some of these white owned stores, and white produced products and services that you speak of?Money earned by blacks doesn't benefit the black community but is quickly spent in white owned stores for white produced products and services.
What do you mean by “a black economy”?Blacks have the capacity as never before to build a strong black economy, if they could only grasp the vision needed.
I knew too many blacks in my youth who were hamstrung, regardless how capable they were, because there could only be one black high school principal...when there was only one black high school. There couldn't be any black politicians.
There could only be one black police officer, and he served only the black part of town. There could only be one black doctor, because the town hospital considered itself "progressive" having one black doctor...but more than one would look bad to the whites. The medical school could proudly proclaim, "Why, we graduated a Negro just five years ago!" Blacks who could have become doctors had to satisfy themselves with being morticians.
A black man could own a diner, but he couldn't own a chain because he couldn't get a business loan, regardless how sound his business plan.
The black economy was moribund from the beginning. Blacks were allowed businesses...as long as they didn't get too big or too lucrative. Jim Crow made sure of that.
The fact is, the white American model of business economics didn't work for blacks, and never would, because it wasn't allowed to work for blacks.
Immigrant groups would have faced the same problem, except that they came with their own ethnic systems of banking and economics. Chinese, Koreans, Japanese, Arabs, even Africans did not depend on the white American banking system. Their communities came to these shores already seeing their own business methods as the best possible kind of business methods. They were not constrained to following a model that was not by them or for them.
So you actually totally missed my point. Black people in America need to realize that we've been eating chit'lins for culture for the last 400 years...and find a new dish that's actually good for us.
If so much black wealth transfer to whites, why did black wealth increase since that time?
What are some of these white owned stores, and white produced products and services that you speak of?
What do you mean by “a black economy”?
The last President was black, it strikes me they have a place at the table.
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?