Black Sheep Alliance

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Personally, I have specific suspicions about who is behind it, but obviously cannot prove as I have no "backend access" to view such things.

The persecution here is hard and oppressive. Some do not comprehend that a position of "rank" is a RESPONSIBILITY to be walked in HUMBLY, not a license to trample on others, and there are those who seem to feel they have private license to apply their own torture rack and thumbscrews as they see fit even beyond and outside of the normal CF rules. There is nothing more heinous in my sight -- OR I would venture to guess/suspect, IN GOD'S -- than the abuse of a position of responsibility. I confess I have some difficulty, as a firm believer in "mercy and not sacrifice", finding any comfort in traditional simplistic conceits of God bringing "justice" to those who wrong me -- not even "personally" but as one of HIS "little ones" deserving His protection for the sake of the health of my soul in a purely objective sense -- because I feel guilty for even entertaining thoughts of desiring my enemies to "get theirs". I view those kinds of feelings as crass, fleshly and unChristlike, but I have to confess I'm just as human as anyone else and yes, it is possible to arouse those same kinds of feelings in me as well. Difference between me and those I oppose is this: I don't feel justified in those feelings. I don't feel entitled to those feelings. And I am troubled and wounded FURTHER and MORE DEEPLY by them, not comforted in the least by them.

 

[vespasia]

Moriah.

Log OFF from the forum and log on to bible gateway or if you have e-sword open that up and go spend some time in Ephesians instead.

I do NOT see an all out systamatic assult on this forum, just one or two 'niggles' that are working to try and prise you open. I am equally sure that is what it FEELS like but do not allow subjective emotion undermine your walk with Christ.

And go and run into Him as your safe refuge. He is our rock, our tower in times of trouble, he covers you with his wing BUT you MUST rtun to Him not try and stand in your own abilities and strengths (unless being on the recieving end of a good long hard spiritual kicking is your idea of fun)

Go to God and I will...*whistles happily knowing for me work has ended for a couple of days R&R go dig out some weeds and talk with the Boss about this...*

Now go...head straight to Christ and dump all you are carrying at His feet and let Him do the carrying for you.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Vespasia, I'm literally AFRAID to log out for any length of time at this point. I'm afraid I'll never be able to log in again -- that if I'm gone even 24 hours people will throw enough tar at me to make enough stick for a ban.

No this is NOT my idea of fun but what can I do? I'm being persecuted for the sake of the Gospel here, for the sake of truth. This has gone beyond just being cited occasionally (and sometimes rightfully so) for having a sharp tongue (something that is my own fault, and I readily admit).

Be that as it may ... OK .... I will log OUT (I'm logged on at home so it may not appear I've logged off but I will from here @ work) and follow your suggestion. Though I don't know how deep into prayer I can go because if the eyeball floodgates open I'll have to leave work -- I can't stay around others in that condition.

 

[vespasia]

In response to post 123

What you suspect is not compared to the scale of God, important. Not REALLY. Its merely an irritant a trial meant to make you give way to tempatation and take your eyes of Christ and focus on yourself and how aggrived you feel.

* been on the recieveing end of that MO before*

So the church is imperfect, its memebrs are imperfect and do petty silly human things. We ALL do for ALL of us sin [1 John1] Reemmeber and LIVE Romans 12....ALL of it.

Let HIm deal with people he knows more than any of us ever will.

As for those feelings, God is big enough to take pain and anger so go slam the stuff into Him, he took everything on the cross and look he is the firstborn of the dead the one worthy to wear the crown and sit in the throne of heaven. You are allowed to tell Him how you feel, how it seems and ask him to help you to protect you to teach you and to encourage (btw that tends to included discipleship not merely a 'pat on the back'.

Its HARD to let God have the reins when the old ways say 'your problem you have to deal with it' We are not alone any more we have Christ.
Go to Him for rest and healing.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Vespasia, He is THEIR God. Which means ....

How can I believe I have Him when He cares more about them than He does about me?????? If it were not so, would He not smite their consciences as my own is smitten when I am in the wrong?????

I just don't get it. I don't get it AT ALL. OK, I'm done. outta here for now.

 

[vespasia]

response to 125

Vespasia, I'm literally AFRAID to log out for any length of time at this point. I'm afraid I'll never be able to log in again -- that if I'm gone even 24 hours people will throw enough tar at me to make enough stick for a ban.

That is irrational, I can see the logical thinking behind it but that is irrational. Christian leadership is not about tar throwing and I do not envy the staff here with the size and complexity of this forum the eggshell walks they have to do when one part of the body sizes up to another.


Let God fight your battle for you. If need be I will advocate on your behalf. When your tired your ability to thinking cohesively and with rationaity becomes impaired. *Yep you drop down to the level the average joe enjoys...same as I get to try on pain releif.*

No this is NOT my idea of fun but what can I do? I'm being persecuted for the sake of the Gospel here, for the sake of truth. This has gone beyond just being cited occasionally (and sometimes rightfully so) for having a sharp tongue (something that is my own fault, and I readily admit).

Then allow things to cool spend the time you would here in the company of that loving God of ours, you have email details to contact those of us you feel able to trust for prayer and fellowship

yer I can go because if the eyeball floodgates open I'll have to leave work -- I can't stay around others in that condition.

Moriah, sometimes just sometimes crying with another handing you a coffee and the bumper size box of kleenax can help. I appreciate that for you work is not the place but do you have ANYONE local you can head to after work?
Your too far away for the offer of come here stay here, rest and talk about Christ (btw that offer reamins open if it IS ever practical) HECK if you think you may have located a church or something that is any good myself, Kathi Sharpe or even Jeff will contact them and sound them out for you.
{Marcia is away for a couple more weeks until the start of April.]

 

[pete56]

Moriah,

I am not entirely sure who 'they' are! But let me tell you that He is YOUR God and He loves you and cares about you!

I am sorry that you feel that there is some sort of orchestrated attack here, I have to say that I am not aware of any and I would certainly not condone any.

I agree with Vespasia's advice here, log off for a while, spend your time profitably with Him that cares for us all, regardless of our short comings.

I will be praying and I will contact you by PM to discuss this some more!

Bless you

Pete

 

[vespasia]

Moriah He is OUR God,

Awesome, righteous, mighty,GOOD, truth and love.

He disciples those he loves but because he is love he gives us time to work things out; Make no mistake though God is NEVER fooled.

Those who teach in His name carry a burden of responsibility, teach falsely and be assured the God smack WILL come, if possible God uses it to restore His own for he works for ALL our Good even when we sit there crying
'God I can not SEE how this could be for Good!'

Even Elijah ran away to rest with Him, so go , go to Christ.

*or I may have to insist you come over here and help with the weeding or my veg wil not be planted and I will not eat later in the year...*

 

[Tenebrae]

Moriah

Go hide in Him......... if that means pulling up all your anchors and disapering off here for a while, thats ok, however go hide in Him.

THe enemys thing is to get a wedge in, however once its in, he will keep pounding and pounding till all it takes is one seeminly small and innocuous thing, the straw that breaks the camels back so to speak

Psalm 91

1 He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High
will rest in the shadow of the Almighty. [a]
2 I will say [b] of the LORD, "He is my refuge and my fortress,
my God, in whom I trust."
3 Surely he will save you from the fowler's snare
and from the deadly pestilence.
4 He will cover you with his feathers,
and under his wings you will find refuge;
his faithfulness will be your shield and rampart.
5 You will not fear the terror of night,
nor the arrow that flies by day,
6 nor the pestilence that stalks in the darkness,
nor the plague that destroys at midday.
7 A thousand may fall at your side,
ten thousand at your right hand,
but it will not come near you.
8 You will only observe with your eyes
and see the punishment of the wicked.
9 If you make the Most High your dwelling—
even the LORD, who is my refuge-
10 then no harm will befall you,
no disaster will come near your tent.
11 For he will command his angels concerning you
to guard you in all your ways;
12 they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.
13 You will tread upon the lion and the cobra;
you will trample the great lion and the serpent.
14 "Because he loves me," says the LORD, "I will rescue him;
I will protect him, for he acknowledges my name.
15 He will call upon me, and I will answer him;
I will be with him in trouble,
I will deliver him and honor him.
16 With long life will I satisfy him
and show him my salvation."

God is more than big enough to keep us safe. Go hide in Him till the torm passes

 

[vespasia]

Please as you read this

Rememebr Moriah in prayer.

That God hold her and keep her safe and make His face shine upon her for the sake of the body and in the name of His son heal the hurts and give her rest.

 

[icedtea]

I am praying

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Thank you, everyone, for your support, messages of encouragement, and most of all, PRAYERS. I'm feeling a lot better today and thinking a lot more clearly.

 

[izarya]

I am happy that you feel better today Moriah.

I must admit however that the same spirit that burdened you yesterday is hanging over my head like a raincloud today. I spent the better part of this morning in prayer and 'meditation' for lack of a better word. Last night I could not sleep so I was out on the porch lifting weights until 11pm.

 

[vespasia]

Me thinketh 'sticky fingers' may have touched peoples sore spots and 'poked'.

Stay close and next to God and pray one for another.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Moriah, sometimes just sometimes crying with another handing you a coffee and the bumper size box of kleenax can help. I appreciate that for you work is not the place but do you have ANYONE local you can head to after work?

I totally agree .... that would be lovely. On another forum I said something and someone answered with, "oh sweetie, doesn't He (Jesus) say those things to you in your heart?" and it had so much that kind of FEEL to it I just burst out bawling like a baby over it.
But as for local? No, I don't. All my fellowship is online.

Your too far away for the offer of come here stay here, rest and talk about Christ (btw that offer reamins open if it IS ever practical) HECK if you think you may have located a church or something that is any good myself, Kathi Sharpe or even Jeff will contact them and sound them out for you.

I saw one on the web that looked interesting to me. If you want to sound them out ahead of time, I'd be delighted ... I can PM you the details ...
You KNOW I'd love if we could hang out in person. I don't even have a passport though!

 

[IXOYE5]

Please pray. I need the right words for this, and the right way to proceed.

"As the Gentle Breeze flows so does those who follow him "In Spirit and in Truth"
As the Spirit speaks I shall follow, the Body of Christ shall not be divided, nor shall the gates of hell prevail against it.”


As Peter was the Rock, so shall we stand in Christ. For there is only, One Body, One Christ, One Spirit and Lord of all and God of all.

God is Spirit and must be Worshipped in Spirit and Truth. Any who come and enter in any other way except by the Front Gate is a robber and thief.
So enter ye into the Kingdom of God. Christ Openeth and Closeth, and what He Opens no man can close, and what He Closes no man can open.
Therefore these things that have opened by His hand, by a Gentle Breeze now whispers in my ears and the Gentle Breeze carries me in His arms to a new place and journey in the path that has been predestined by the Hand of the Lord.

For the “Words, the planting and the watering has been accomplished according to God’s divine purpose. For in this we ought to obey God rather than men.
Grace be with you all in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ, the King of Kings and Lord of Lords!


My sisters know who I am,

And I come in His name with humbleness of heart and in His spirit to speak things of His spirit and not of myself for I am nothing, but to obey God in all things. Therefore let everyone in their own Hearts judge what the Spirit sayeth unto the Church.


His Grace be with you all,
Love in the Name of Jesus Christ the Hope of Our Salvation. Amen


Ybic
Martin



Moriah, vespasia and wiseone

 

[Tenebrae]

3 hours in the librarys reference area, to complete an assignmentand I still couldnt get all the answers, although 8/10ths is done

Bought a book the other day, 'Witchcraft goes mainstream, by Brookes Alexander, the head of the Spiritual Counterfits project

At last something well written, not only with imput from the Neopagan community, but this guy knows how to reference

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Wize, sweet, will have to check that out. Spiritual Counterfeits project -- think I've seen their website before? Looked worth checking out. There's also a group something like Christian Outreach to New Religions or something like that .... what was that one called again, if anyone knows?

 

[icedtea]

Things probably look different with those glasses..

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Yes they look blue and red. So I have posts and blessings but not reputation with them.