Birth pangs

[Postvieww]

in my thread victorinus
-I have identified three of the four horsemen
-but can only guess on the rider of the pale horse
-my guess was natural disasters
-go figure

The pale horse I believe represents Islam. The Greek word translated in the KJV, pale is Strong’s word #5515 “chloros” also translated as green in Mark 6:39, Rev. 8:7 and Rev. 9:4. Green is considered to be the traditional color is Islam, many Islamic countries use green in their flags, green is of importance in the Qur’an or Koran, just to mention a few. Those who follow Islam comprise almost exactly one fourth of earth’s population. As we see in our daily news, Islamic extremism is a culture of death and destruction. To kill with the sword certainly fits today with numerous beheadings carried out by many who claim Islam as their faith. Many other bazar forms of torture and murder are used by these groups. A recent headline “ Will the Islamic State (ISIS) use horses to tear people in half in their next barbaric execution?” Surly this will fit with “beasts of the earth” from verse 8.

See I can look at history, maybe a little more recent than some but history none the less.

I would be glad to give my take on the other three if interested.

 

[victorinus]

The pale horse I believe represents Islam.

I have mohammed riding the red horse so that takes care of islam for me

 

[Postvieww]

I have mohammed riding the red horse so that takes care of islam for me

I believe Communism fits better. Red is the accepted color of the communists. Some estimates are between 85 and 100 million dead at the hands of communists, in the twentieth century. 1. “Take peace from the earth”. Involved in numerous wars. 2. “They should kill one another”. Exterminated millions of their own people. Every description given in the passage fits perfectly the communist ideology.

 

[victorinus]

I believe Communism fits better. Red is the accepted color of the communists. Some estimates are between 85 and 100 million dead at the hands of communists, in the twentieth century. 1. “Take peace from the earth”. Involved in numerous wars. 2. “They should kill one another”. Exterminated millions of their own people. Every description given in the passage fits perfectly the communist ideology.

the horses should be in chronological order

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Notice the flag colors of Islamic nations. White, black, red, and green. These are the same colors of the four horsemen of the revelation

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

The pale horse I believe represents Islam. The Greek word translated in the KJV, pale is Strong’s word #5515 “chloros” also translated as green in Mark 6:39, Rev. 8:7 and Rev. 9:4. Green is considered to be the traditional color is Islam, many Islamic countries use green in their flags, green is of importance in the Qur’an or Koran, just to mention a few. Those who follow Islam comprise almost exactly one fourth of earth’s population. As we see in our daily news, Islamic extremism is a culture of death and destruction. To kill with the sword certainly fits today with numerous beheadings carried out by many who claim Islam as their faith. Many other bazar forms of torture and murder are used by these groups. A recent headline “ Will the Islamic State (ISIS) use horses to tear people in half in their next barbaric execution?” Surly this will fit with “beasts of the earth” from verse 8.

See I can look at history, maybe a little more recent than some but history none the less.

I would be glad to give my take on the other three if interested.

Let us begin another thread on the four horsemen. I will start it. I will post the link here.
Here you go. I would love to see what you all think.
http://www.christianforums.com/threads/your-thoughts-on-the-four-horsemen.7947894/

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

This video is very informative about recent volcanoes and earthquakes.There is an alarming uptick in both.

 

[keras]

This video is very informative about recent volcanoes and earthquakes.There is an alarming uptick in both.

I like how my country, New Zealand is colored red above!
FYI, I am 74 and have never felt an earthquake in NZ. I did experience several in Papua New Guinea.
But as you say, there has been an increase of 'birth pangs' and I confidently expect to see the fulfilment of all that is prophesied for the last few years of this age.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

I like how my country, New Zealand is colored red above!
FYI, I am 74 and have never felt an earthquake in NZ. I did experience several in Papua New Guinea.
But as you say, there has been an increase of 'birth pangs' and I confidently expect to see the fulfilment of all that is prophesied for the last few years of this age.

How far are you from Christ Church? Well you will be interested to know that sun observers say a cme triggered the last set of earthquakes.

 

[keras]

How far are you from Christ Church? Well you will be interested to know that sun observers say a cme triggered the last set of earthquakes.

I live in Thames. upper north island, about 500 miles from Christchurch.
Could you please give the reference to a CME causing earthquakes?

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

I live in Thames. upper north island, about 500 miles from Christchurch.
Could you please give the reference to a CME causing earthquakes?

Sure, let me find it again.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Here you go Keras.

 

[dysert]

An earthquake with a preliminary magnitude of 5.1 rocked Southern California early Friday, rousing residents out of bed at about 4 a.m. Pacific time. The quake was centered near Borrego Springs in the desert east of Los Angeles, the U.S. Geological Service said. There were no early reports of injuries.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...-rocked-earthquake/85684852/?csp=breakingnews

 

[dysert]

A magnitude 6.1 earthquake and a series of aftershocks rattled the northwestern coast of Nicaragua late Thursday.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/06/10/northern-nicaragua-earthquake/85682900/

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

An earthquake with a preliminary magnitude of 5.1 rocked Southern California early Friday, rousing residents out of bed at about 4 a.m. Pacific time. The quake was centered near Borrego Springs in the desert east of Los Angeles, the U.S. Geological Service said. There were no early reports of injuries.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...-rocked-earthquake/85684852/?csp=breakingnews

I imagine that was very frightening to the residents being shaken out of bed.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

A magnitude 6.1 earthquake and a series of aftershocks rattled the northwestern coast of Nicaragua late Thursday.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/06/10/northern-nicaragua-earthquake/85682900/

I wonder if this quake was tied/connected in some way to the one in California?. The said a the walls of a church building collapsed in this one and it had a lot of aftershocks.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

https://www.sott.net/article/320794...kes-eastern-China-at-least-98-reportedly-dead

Rare powerful tornado strikes eastern China; at least 98 reportedly dead

BBC
Fri, 24 Jun 2016 05:00 UTC

© AFP
The winds were powerful enough to pick up vehicles

A tornado and hailstorm have killed at least 98 people and injured nearly 800 in the east Chinese province of Jiangsu, according to state media.

Accompanied by torrential rain, the tornado struck the outskirts of the city of Yancheng on Thursday afternoon.

Counties on the city's outskirts saw winds of up to 125km/h (78 mph).

The search for survivors in debris has now been completed with a clean-up under way, the head of the provincial fire corps told state media.

President Xi Jinping had ordered "all-out rescue efforts" after what the Xinhua news agency said was one of the worst disasters ever to hit Jiangsu.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Flash floods kill 43 in northern Pakistan: officials

Gul Hammad Farooqi
July 2, 2016

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Pakistani labourers wade through flood water following heavy rain in Lahore
Pakistani labourers wade through flood water following heavy rain in Lahore (AFP Photo/Arif Ali)
Ursoon (Pakistan) (AFP) - Overnight flash floods killed at least 43 people in northern Pakistan, the majority in a remote village that did not receive an evacuation warning before the waters hit washing away most of the settlement, officials said Sunday.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/floods-kill-31-villagers-northern-pakistan-mayor-060140135.html?nhp=1

 

[Straightshot]

The birth pangs are slated specifically for Israel even though all of the world will be in the tribulation

And these particular birth pangs refer to the reconstitution of Israel as a nation during the time of Jacob's trouble, the 70th week decreed for the nation, the same time as 7 year tribulation period [Jeremiah 30; 31:31-37; Ezekiel 20:33-44; Daniel 9:24-27; 12; Joel 2; 3; Micah 5; Zechariah 12; 13; 14; Matthew 24:15-16; Luke 21:20-36; Revelation 12]

Some of the events going on today seem to indicate a convergence of stage setting events that will be followed by the coming day of the Lord of His unprecedented wrath and judgment upon an unbelieving world .... a returned remnant of Isreal in the land, Muslim intransigence against Israel, and environmental upheaval

.... but no one can date the beginning of the day of the Lord of which He has not revealed