Billboard: “I Had an Abortion and I’m Not Apologizing”

[High Fidelity]

Hmmm. I've adopted 4 kids. How many for you?

You're one of the rare ones that put your money where your mouth is.

The phrase 'pro birth, not pro life' is a very appropriate phrase thrown around for good reason.

 

[step_by_step]

Education helps lower it. It's a woman's choice and it will never be made illegal again, so the question really is what can be done to lower it that's reasonable.

Good sex education is definitely a positive step proved to lower it.

How so? People know that pregnancy is a result of sex. How is telling them that going to lower the amount of abortions?

 

[High Fidelity]

How so? People know that pregnancy is a result of sex. How is telling them that going to lower the amount of abortions?

Teaching safe sex is important. Access to contraceptives is also important. It helps reduce pregnancies and abortions by extension.

Abstinence-only programs are antiquated and don't work effectively.

 

[Calminian]

So what are we to do? Support abortion?

It's their excuse to vote left, or not vote at all (or third party). Classic rationalization. It's all a ruse to justify turning their backs on the unborn.

 

[Calminian]

Teaching safe sex is important. Access to contraceptives is also important. It helps reduce pregnancies and abortions by extension.

Abstinence-only programs are antiquated and don't work effectively.

We kill a baby every 30 seconds. The only effective measure is to make it illegal.

Something tells me that if these brave Christians who justify legalized abortion were themselves at risk, they'd be marching in the street with Trump hats. But since it's some baby they don't know, they turn their backs.

 

[com7fy8]

no matter the circumstance (even Rape-God forbid), every woman has a choice.

compassion is important, some are under incredible pressures at the time and regret it terribly

But why do they make such a choice, after being raped by a family member and taken-however to do an abortion?

Where do you believe we need to start? What really works?

It used to be that women used coat hangers to give themselves abortions. Why were they so set on making that choice? How do we deal with this tendency which certain women have? No law can make such a person love her unborn; so how do we deal with this?

No, I don't believe it is bad to make abortion illegal. Murder is considered to be illegal; it is just that ones have managed to keep abortion from being legally considered murder. Ones do not get how all are created equal.

One thing I don't get is that the party who wants more votes is willing to bring in illegals to become voters, but they are ok with killing their unborn who could become voters. It's not even practical, maybe.

 

[com7fy8]

Those that are fast to criticise abortion are slow to support the child and parents after birth.

A lot of people can't afford to have children yet the people vocally against abortion tend to vote for people that want to limit benefits to those that need them, or curtailing basic human rights like public healthcare.

So what are we to do? Support abortion?

I see how the point here can be that if ones are really against abortion, then they should be ready to help and support the children who are not aborted and their mothers.

But if a group is mainly about votes . . . claiming to be against abortion can help to win a large bloc of votes.

So, how much, really, are people pro-life, if they claim to be?

But in case a party is not interested in helping ones who keep their children, this does not excuse me to support abortion.

Because God is the One who is able to take care of a lady and her child. And He does it better than any government or church culture programs can. But He does use people to help one another. And the mother and her child will have love, with God, if not with ones who were pressuring her to kill her own unborn with whom she could learn real love.

 

[Kenny'sID]

So the question becomes what can we do to show them another way and not trigger those emotions ? So what's your plan ?

With Capital Punishment it doesn't matter what we trigger, they won't be murdering anymore babies.

 

[bèlla]

I recall a conversation with an abortion protestor during my teens. I live near a Planned Parenthood office and they've been physically attacked more than once.

I asked a simple question that left her dumbfounded. And I think it's one Christians need to consider before they scream or jump down someone's throat.

I asked her what she intended to do to support the mother if she took her advice. I asked where she'd be when the mother lacked the resources to provide. I asked if she'd be available if she desired to return to school or offer to babysit once in a while.

In short, I asked her if she was willing to act. She couldn't respond and we both knew why. Protests are easy. It is very easy to stand on a soapbox. But getting involved takes work and sacrifice. Most feel they'd done their duty by speaking out.

Be slow to speak. Words have consequences. And if you aren't willing to step into the consequences for the advice you've given. Be still. There may be another avenue available. Pray. Seek the Holy Spirit's aid. Don't operate from the flesh.

I don't like abortion. I've raised a child on my own. We were fortunate. Many are not. I would never apply my options to someone else.

 

[bèlla]

Because God is the One who is able to take care of a lady and her child. And He does it better than any government or church culture programs can. But He does use people to help one another. And the mother and her child will have love, with God, if not with ones who were pressuring her to kill her own unborn with whom she could learn real love.

My stepmother lost both of her parents at a young age. She was an orphan at 12 years old. It was very difficult. She grew up in Jamaica and eventually moved to London. And she gave me a piece of advice that I've never forgotten.

I was reminded that the baby growing in my stomach was my responsibility. She told me that many will promise to assist and they mean well. But at the end of the day the buck stopped with me. I was advised to plan my life with that in mind. She didn't want me building my world on a lot of maybe's that may not pan out and she was right.

God loves everyone but that doesn't alter the reality that children are harmed every day in this country. It doesn't change the swelling numbers removed from homes and placed in the state's care. It hasn't lessened the many who've reached adulthood in that state. Never having a permanent home.

It is true that God uses people. It is true that God can move hearts. But He won't force anyone to help. That is not His way. You cannot say with certainty the life that anyone will have. Only He can do that.

 

[Calminian]

I recall a conversation with an abortion protestor during my teens. I live near a Planned Parenthood office and they've been physically attacked more than once.

I asked a simple question that left her dumbfounded. And I think it's one Christians need to consider before they scream or jump down someone's throat.

I asked her what she intended to do to support the mother if she took her advice. I asked where she'd be when the mother lacked the resources to provide. I asked if she'd be available if she desired to return to school or offer to babysit once in a while.

In short, I asked her if she was willing to act. She couldn't respond and we both knew why. Protests are easy. It is very easy to stand on a soapbox. But getting involved takes work and sacrifice. Most feel they'd done their duty by speaking out.

Be slow to speak. Words have consequences. And if you aren't willing to step into the consequences for the advice you've given. Be still. There may be another avenue available. Pray. Seek the Holy Spirit's aid. Don't operate from the flesh.

I don't like abortion. I've raised a child on my own. We were fortunate. Many are not. I would never apply my options to someone else.

Why is that question "dumbfounding"? I find it kind of silly. There's definitely no biblical wisdom in it. No similar parable of Jesus' come to mind. It's human wisdom from your own mind that you've put on par with Scripture. But let's take your premise to its logical conclusion.

Let's say you find a baby on the street with no one to care for it. It happens sometimes, babies are sometimes found abandoned. By your logic, that baby has no right to life and could be murdered without consequence since someone might not step up to take care of it. That's the morality you're espousing.

But it's pure sinful human wisdom. This is why we're told not to lean on our own understanding.

Let me add this. If abortion did not merely threaten the unborn, but others as well, you'd sing a different tune. If abortion was a threat to you personally, you would not be waxing philosophical. You'd be marching in the streets begging for your own safety, demanding protection under the law. I'm just asking you to do that same for the unborn.

 

[JackRT]

Those that are fast to criticise abortion are slow to support the child and parents after birth.

A lot of people can't afford to have children yet the people vocally against abortion tend to vote for people that want to limit benefits to those that need them, or curtailing basic human rights like public healthcare.

I am against abortion beyond the twentieth week except in very rare extreme circumstances.. Otherwise I believe that abortion should be legal, it should be safe, it should be available and it should be the woman’s informed choice but most important of all --- it should be rare. In conclusion, we should always keep in mind that there are no more powerful abortifacients in the world than poverty and ignorance.

Most people cannot understand the desperation that most of these women face when making a decision such as this. If we remove the poverty and ignorance we will vastly reduce the number of abortions. It will not be done by making abortions either illegal or more difficult or by defunding organizations like Planned Parenthood who do much good work in sex education, birth control, prenatal care and post natal care. In fact such defunding efforts actually increase the probability of abortion.

 

[com7fy8]

Thank you, LaBèlla, for taking the time to share about my comments, and for sharing such personal things about yourself.

But He won't force anyone to help.

God does desire cheerful helping.

And I have been hearing about how many children in foster care are being abused. Ones can use them to get money.

So, laws alone can't make people love.

Abortion, I would say, is a product of the overall character of people of this world, including of "the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience" (in Ephesians 2:2).

There is the evil spirit of selfishness which effects people's nature. You can't talk a selfish person into becoming a caring person. Only God can change us to be truly loving.

So, what does this mean, really, that is needed?

 

[com7fy8]

If abortion did not merely threaten the unborn,

But, Calminian, abortion does threaten all of us. Because the ones with the nature to kill unborn people are also involved in our health care and politics and international affairs.

The American Medical Association's admin people are ok with abortion, and these same ones are making choices about how to deal with and understand senior medicine and how to medically care for children.

Jesus says the one who is unjust in little is also unjust in much, right?

 

[Loyce KG]

But why do they make such a choice, after being raped by a family member and taken-however to do an abortion?

Where do you believe we need to start? What really works?



It used to be that women used coat hangers to give themselves abortions. Why were they so set on making that choice? How do we deal with this tendency which certain women have? No law can make such a person love her unborn; so how do we deal with this

No, I don't believe it is bad to make abortion illegal. Murder is considered to be illegal; it is just that ones have managed to keep abortion from being legally considered murder. Ones do not get how all are created equal.

 

[Loyce KG]

But why do they make such a choice, after being raped by a family member and taken-however to do an abortion?

Where do you believe we need to start? What really works?

It used to be that women used coat hangers to give themselves abortions. Why were they so set on making that choice? How do we deal with this tendency which certain women have? No law can make such a person love her unborn; so how do we deal with this?

No, I don't believe it is bad to make abortion illegal. Murder is considered to be illegal; it is just that ones have managed to keep abortion from being legally considered murder. Ones do not get how all are created equal.

One thing I don't get is that the party who wants more votes is willing to bring in illegals to become voters, but they are ok with killing their unborn who could become voters. It's not even practical, maybe.[/QUOTE

It's man's depravity and willingness to believe the lie of the devil that leads women to. Ale such a choice.
Perhaps, they view abortion as a means of easing the pain; Getting rid of the baby will not remind them of their painful experience. Ofcourse this is a lie of the devil. No physical remedy(such as abortion) can erase the spiritual brokenness of rape, hatred and abuse. It takes the power of God to change such a person, to give them a new heart with new affections.
That's why our message must not stop at simply opposing abortion (for we would be equal to the moralists in the world who know not Jesus). We must preach the gospel. We must speak the word of God in love. The gospel is good news for the lost, hurting and broken spirit.

 

[Not David]

What an evil depraved culture we have become.

“I Had an Abortion and I’m Not Apologizing”
by Ken Ham

One billboard boldly proclaims, “I had an abortion and I’m not apologizing.” Another promotes the lie, “I had an abortion & it was just health care.” Now, true health care doesn’t involve murdering children. A third one claims, “I had an abortion and I’m not ashamed.”

One woman who participated in this campaign said, “I joined the #SayAbortion campaign because abortion is normal, abortion is health care, and I will not apologize for putting my life first.” Now that’s essentially an admission she sacrificed her child to the god of self!

Another woman wants to make the conversation about abortion “as easy as talking about a colonoscopy,” as if a doctor checking to ensure nothing is going wrong in a patient’s colon is the same as violently murdering a human life within the safety of his or her mother’s body. What depravity we see these women stooping to!

A third woman claims she knows the “joys of motherhood” because she probably would not have the kids she now has if she hadn’t had one of her children murdered. Oh, such evil we see around us!

Their billboards should state "I murdered my child and I'm not apologizing" or "I sacrificed my child to the god of self and I'm not apologizing.” As I have stated many times, abortion is nothing less than the sacrifice of unborn children to the god of self. The one woman’s statement that she put her life first clearly illustrates that. She selfishly chose to live the life she wanted at the expense of her own child’s life. This should wrench our hearts as it does the Lord’s: "The Lord hates . . . hands that shed innocent blood" (Proverbs 6:16–17).​

Think of how women used to think in the past. They would trade their lives for their children in a heartbeat. They were heroes. Now we have culture of women who boast about being cowards. Sacrificing a child for yourself?? And we have a portion of the Church who support them with their votes, and non-votes. And these people claim to be more righteous than Trump?

What happened to safe and rare abortions?

 

[Not David]

Teaching safe sex is important. Access to contraceptives is also important. It helps reduce pregnancies and abortions by extension.

Abstinence-only programs are antiquated and don't work effectively.

A lot of abortions occur after contraception went wrong.

 

[com7fy8]

@Loyce KG Thank you for your sharing which is found within your quote of me, in your Post #38.

I think you show caring insight. You say >

"Perhaps, they view abortion as a means of easing the pain; Getting rid of the baby will not remind them of their painful experience."

Thank you; this can help me to have a more compassionate way of seeing abortion. I can be very swift to self-righteously criticize and not feel for other people.

"No physical remedy(such as abortion) can erase the spiritual brokenness of rape, hatred and abuse. It takes the power of God to change such a person, to give them a new heart with new affections."

About affections > part of the problem can be how a person of the world can be so about pleasure and security; this can help to keep the person weak so he or she is also weak enough to keep on suffering in pain and being ragingly and self-righteously critical of others . . . like I can be.

I can be a living abortion from the life of God's love, though I might be able to point correctly at how others are wrong.

"He can have compassion on those who are ignorant and going astray, since he himself is also subject to weakness." (Hebrews 5:2)

"That's why our message must not stop at simply opposing abortion (for we would be equal to the moralists in the world who know not Jesus). We must preach the gospel. We must speak the word of God in love. The gospel is good news for the lost, hurting and broken spirit."

Yes, I can still be a moralist. Thank you; God bless you t

 

[bèlla]

Why is that question "dumbfounding"? I find it kind of silly. There's definitely no biblical wisdom in it. No similar parable of Jesus' come to mind. It's human wisdom from your own mind that you've put on par with Scripture. But let's take your premise to its logical conclusion.

You are inferring a great deal in your comment. I said she was dumbfounded. I did not claim biblical wisdom or make any comparisons to scripture. Those are your words. I was 16 years old at the time and if you had queried me about the remark I would have said that.

Let's say you find a baby on the street with no one to care for it. It happens sometimes, babies are sometimes found abandoned. By your logic, that baby has no right to life and could be murdered without consequence since someone might not step up to take care of it. That's the morality you're espousing.

Once again, you are operating from your script. I clearly stated in my comment that I don't support abortion. Having a position on a subject doesn't divorce me from the ramifications of its embrace. I am uncertain how you gleaned murder from those remarks.

Let me add this. If abortion did not merely threaten the unborn, but others as well, you'd sing a different tune. If abortion was a threat to you personally, you would not be waxing philosophical. You'd be marching in the streets begging for your own safety, demanding protection under the law. I'm just asking you to do that same for the unborn.

Is that a Word from the Lord? Did the Holy Spirit tell you that Himself? Did He specify how I'd behave or are you making assumptions? And more importantly, did He tell you to say it?