Bill Cosby

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

I get the feeling from the interviews I've seen that it's motivated by a desire for 'closure'. The "hard to dismiss" part is the similarities of their claims, typically involving pills.

Just think if that comedian didn't make a joke about Cosby being a serial rapist, none of these women would be coming out right now.

 

[Somber Warrior]

Even back in the 1980s I realized he was being dishonest about his moral superiority against slang talk when he made money and fame doing that in movies during the 1970s.

Cosby didn't do "blacksploitation." He did the "I Spy" series and a post-series movie with the same characters -- Hickey and Boggs -- that, if one stretches the definition of "blacksploitation" to the breaking point, might qualify, but that's very doubtful. You might be interested in exploring his entire career at the IMBd website, searching his name. You will find, I believe, that you might be remembering someone else instead of Cosby.

He was in fact the "anti-black" black man of his day, which is to say he broke the stereotype of the black man those "blacksploitation" films and series had imbedded in American culture. Maybe he fell from grace, maybe he didn't. It seems highly suspect that it took 30 to 50 years for nine women to make these allegations. My experience in sexual assault tells me, if they wait that long, they're going to take it to their grave, though there are exceptions.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

And frankly, PreachersWife, I don't find you much better than Bill Cosby (and this man may well be a serial rapist). You're using diction and tone to dilute the character flaws of Bill Cosby. The man was apparently married. In all your Christianity the only thing you can say--in some attempt to defend him--is that "the sex was consensual." Yeah? Well apparently he was committing adultery. Why not reach for some honesty and use the word "adultery" or "cheating" rather than "consensual sex"?

I'm not sure why you are choosing to make this personal against me, but okay.

If this was a thread about Cosby cheating on his wife, I'd be calling him out on that. I maintained in at least two of my posts that he was not innocent in all of this.

And I know you think you're better than me, PreachersWife. You won't be the first. But as a crack head I've only given drugs (crack/cocaine) to women that were actually drug addicts who wanted the drugs. I never slipped powder cocaine into the drink of some non-drug using woman, her completely unaware. I've also never tried to get a non-drug using woman (or man) to use drugs. I don't rape women.

Ummm...what?? I don't even know you or your situation. I have never said I was better than you.

But I do believe that sin is sin is sin. To go along with the personal nature of your attacks here, I will say that you are sounding REALLY close to the Pharisees, with their "I am BETTER than that man." You may not have raped a woman - but I bet you've sinned in your lifetime - because we are all sinners.

So I would be careful about saying YOU'RE better than someone else because your sin is different than someone else's.

Other than that, I still don't know why you're singling me out. I have an opinion of this case. I expressed that opinion. I've worked with a good number of rape victims in my lifetime. I have some experience in the field.

 

[SepiaAndDust]

And frankly, PreachersWife, I don't find you much better than Bill Cosby (and this man may well be a serial rapist). You're using diction and tone to dilute the character flaws of Bill Cosby.

Ignored.

 

[jacktheman]

por Cos..
time will tell

 

[Billnew]

It seems all of the incidents are old, so why make the charge now?

He is innocent until proven guilty.

There is a reason why police won't touch it. There is no way to collect evidence this far out. She said/he said all evidence is destroyed, witnesses have forgotten the events.
If you can't accuse within a reasonable amount of time, you're just scamming.

So those old enough, think of a party over 20 yrs ago. Now tell me which friends were at the party and what they were wearing and what time they went home or passed out.
Any ideas? case closed.

 

[bhsmte]

It seems all of the incidents are old, so why make the charge now?

He is innocent until proven guilty.

There is a reason why police won't touch it. There is no way to collect evidence this far out. She said/he said all evidence is destroyed, witnesses have forgotten the events.
If you can't accuse within a reasonable amount of time, you're just scamming.

So those old enough, think of a party over 20 yrs ago. Now tell me which friends were at the party and what they were wearing and what time they went home or passed out.
Any ideas? case closed.

Statute of limitations has passed and they couldn't file charges even if they had evidence he committed the acts.

 

[Sistrin]

Statute of limitations has passed and they couldn't file charges even if they had evidence he committed the acts.

That is true. Which raises the question why are these women pursuing this now? If Cosby can't be charged in a criminal proceeding, what do each of them want?

 

[bhsmte]

That is true. Which raises the question why are these women pursuing this now? If Cosby can't be charged in a criminal proceeding, what do each of them want?

Closure.

Do some reading on victims of abuse and or rape and how common it is to keep it to themselves for years and how difficult it is to go public with what happened to them. When one comes forward, it is not atypical to see others come forward, because it makes it easier and they are not alone.

 

[grasping the after wind]

Closure.

Do some reading on victims of abuse and or rape and how common it is to keep it to themselves for years and how difficult it is to go public with what happened to them. When one comes forward, it is not atypical to see others come forward, because it makes it easier and they are not alone.

If one is a victim, then wouldn't prosecuting one's tormentor at the time of his crime and stopping him from tormenting others be a much better way to achieve closure than allowing others to join you decades later in a group commiseration session that prevents nothing bad from happening?

 

[bhsmte]

If one is a victim, then wouldn't prosecuting one's tormentor at the time of his crime and stopping him from tormenting others be a much better way to achieve closure than allowing others to join you decades later in a group commiseration session that prevents nothing bad from happening?

In a perfect world yes. When it comes to issues like this, victims don't always act in a rational way.

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

Closure.

Do some reading on victims of abuse and or rape and how common it is to keep it to themselves for years and how difficult it is to go public with what happened to them. When one comes forward, it is not atypical to see others come forward, because it makes it easier and they are not alone.

Also, if he's drugging and raping teens or young women still. Maybe they might feel better about coming for forward now. I haven't heard of rapist just quitting, unless they're locked up.

 

[ulu]

C'mon Bill, go for a lie detector. When you pass you'll likely get your gigs back. They're all just lying, making everything up, right? It's just one big conspiracy by all those lying women to bring you down, right?

 

[SepiaAndDust]

C'mon Bill, go for a lie detector. When you pass you'll likely get your gigs back. They're all just lying, making everything up, right? It's just one big conspiracy by all those lying women to bring you down, right?

He's got plenty of gigs (received a standing ovation a day or two ago), and lie detectors are worse than useless for this sort of situation.

 

[Somber Warrior]

C'mon Bill, go for a lie detector. When you pass you'll likely get your gigs back. They're all just lying, making everything up, right? It's just one big conspiracy by all those lying women to bring you down, right?

He's got plenty of gigs (received a standing ovation a day or two ago), and lie detectors are worse than useless for this sort of situation.

Not to mention he can't be charged with anything in the first place. Statute of limitations and all that.

 

[ulu]

Can't be charged- so he's innocent. I knew it. They just made it all up.
-and just got a standing ovation- further evidence of his innocence

way to go bill

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

Can't be charged- so he's innocent. I knew it. They just made it all up.
-and just got a standing ovation- further evidence of his innocence

way to go bill

That doesn't mean they made it up. One went to police a long time ago, but didn't go to trial. Many rapes don't. She took him to court for damages and won and many other people was in this lawsuit.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

Can't be charged- so he's innocent. I knew it. They just made it all up.
-and just got a standing ovation- further evidence of his innocence

way to go bill

So...tell us what you really feel.

 

[Somber Warrior]

Can't be charged- so he's innocent. I knew it.

Didn't say that. Just said he can't be charged, so a lie detector -- notably untrustworthy and inadmissable -- wouldn't make sense.

They just made it all up.

Didn't say that, either. There may be a basis for the allegations. There may not be. Without a trial in a court of law -- rather than in the media and on message boards worldwide -- we can't say, and we'll never know.

-and just got a standing ovation- further evidence of his innocence

way to go bill

Standing ovation isn't a ruling of "not guilty." It's just an appreciation for the talent. Ted Bundy was a genius, and was recognized for it -- right up to the point they strapped him the Florida electric chair.

 

[ulu]

That doesn't mean they made it up. One went to police a long time ago, but didn't go to trial. Many rapes don't. She took him to court for damages and won and many other people was in this lawsuit.

I was being sarcastic. Of course he's guilty. If he cared at all about his reputation, as almost 100% of celebs do, he could simply state for the record that these women were lying , that he is not a rapist, has never drugged and groped women etc and have a huge percentage of his fan base believe him, just like michael jackson's did.

Other than because he's guilty, what possible reason would he have for saying nothing? Does anyone think his silence makes it seem more likely that he's innocent?

He claims to be a christian. At least make him get up in court, put his hand on the bible and swear that these allegations are all baseless.