Biden leads Trump by 12 points

Matchup between the two -- your top pick?

  • Trump

    Votes: 5 20.8%
  • Biden

    Votes: 12 50.0%
  • Wish there was someone else?

    Votes: 7 29.2%

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National polls may be interesting. But what's much more important is how Donald Trump and Joe Biden (or any Democratic contender) are perceived in each state. And especially, who's polling better in the swing states--MI, WI, PA, OH, FL, and MN. How the voting goes in these states will decide the election.
 
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National polls may be interesting. But what's much more important is how Donald Trump and Joe Biden (or any Democratic contender) are perceived in each state. And especially, who's polling better in the swing states--MI, WI, PA, OH, FL, and MN. How the voting goes in these states will decide the election.

If you are only concerned with election results, forget about who is ahead in what should be an extremely unlikely general election matchup. (If Trump is kicked out of office his name must be deleted from ballots in every precinct.) We should be thinking about Biden vs. Warren vs. any other Democratic candidate.
 
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Warren is asking for more government spending than people can pay. If corporations are asked to pick up the tab, they might go out of business.

Corporations already pay a ton of money for employee health insurance. Offloading that to a cheaper (per capita) system could help both them and their employees, and those smaller businesses without the bargaining power of large corporations could potentially see a bigger benefit. Employees wouldn't have to factor health benefits into their employment decisions.
 
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Corporations already pay a ton of money for employee health insurance. Offloading that to a cheaper (per capita) system could help both them and their employees, and those smaller businesses without the bargaining power of large corporations could potentially see a bigger benefit. Employees wouldn't have to factor health benefits into their employment decisions.
Canada has a single payer system. People complained about waiting times for appointments. Of course there will not be enough for everyone. Certain procedures would not be approved as with Medicare and only 80% of expenses are paid by Medicare. If it were only health insurance shifting to the public sector, it would be a heavy burden. Warren wants to spend much more. I do not know of any nation with free college for everyone. Warren wants that too. Already many people with degrees are not employed in their fields of study. If investor’s money is confiscated, new technologies might not be developed. It might be like Cuba or Venezuela.
 
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Canada has a single payer system. People complained about waiting times for appointments.

There are plenty of wait times in our current system, even with insurance. I recently had to wait over 4 months to see an allergist.

It might be like Cuba or Venezuela.

It will be nothing like Cuba or Venezuela.
 
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If you are only concerned with election results, forget about who is ahead in what should be an extremely unlikely general election matchup. (If Trump is kicked out of office his name must be deleted from ballots in every precinct.) We should be thinking about Biden vs. Warren vs. any other Democratic candidate.

True, the race of the moment is for the Democratic nomination. But as of now, I don't see Donald Trump being removed from office. Though the odds are better that he will be impeached. If I were a bookmaker (and political betting was legal) I'd set the moneyline at +100 that the House will pass Articles of Impeachment against him. Which are even odds. But the Senate voting to convict him would be +500. Which is 5-1 against. Although the odds can change in either direction pending the next round of House hearings, which will be public.
 
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Pssst ..I feel like some people may benefit from a reading of Warren's platform since she is most definitely not taxing people who don't have money.
It's fun to smear, I get that. But you may want to "fact smear"...
 
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Canada has a single payer system. People complained about waiting times for appointments. Of course there will not be enough for everyone. Certain procedures would not be approved as with Medicare and only 80% of expenses are paid by Medicare. If it were only health insurance shifting to the public sector, it would be a heavy burden. Warren wants to spend much more. I do not know of any nation with free college for everyone. Warren wants that too. Already many people with degrees are not employed in their fields of study. If investor’s money is confiscated, new technologies might not be developed. It might be like Cuba or Venezuela.

Wait times in universal healthcare systems tend to be exaggerated a lot by right wing media. In the UK I could usually see a doctor within 24-48 hours, and they have emergency provisions for urgent stuff. The key point however is that everyone has treatment and it’s free at the point of use. We don’t have people not going to a doctors because they can’t afford it, with is a vast number of lives saved every year.

As for college, plenty of countries have free college. The UK did when I was younger. They even gave me a grant to help pay my living expenses too.
 
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