Biden is weighing whether to continue in the race

[ozso]

It’s the magnitude

Because claiming to be an asylum seeker is a golden ticket.

 

[ozso]

I doubt that will stop you.

Why would I complain against deportation of illegals? Didn't think that through very well did you?

 

[BCP1928]

It’s the magnitude

The Mexican side of the border is a "no-man's land" controlled by the cartels. who are recruiting asylum seekers to traffic and dump at the border, out of reach of assistance from the Mexican authorities. There they are, stuck in the desert with no place else to go. Now what?

 

[BCP1928]

Because claiming to be an asylum seeker is a golden ticket.

And if their claim could be adjudicated quickly, most of them would wind up being sent home.

 

[BPPLEE]

The Mexican side of the border is a "no-man's land" controlled by the cartels. who are recruiting asylum seekers to traffic and dump at the border, out of reach of assistance from the Mexican authorities. There they are, stuck in the desert with no place else to go. Now what?

Sounds like a serious problem for Mexico

 

[ozso]

The Mexican side of the border is a "no-man's land" controlled by the cartels. who are recruiting asylum seekers to traffic and dump at the border, out of reach of assistance from the Mexican authorities. There they are, stuck in the desert with no place else to go. Now what?

You need to bone up on geography. Also, if they can't get though any longer the cartels aren't going to keep recruiting them.

 

[BCP1928]

Why would I complain against deportation of illegals? Didn't think that through very well did you?

The Biden administration is deporting illegals at a high rate. It makes me wonder what you are complaining about but I don't expect you to stop.

 

[BCP1928]

Sounds like a serious problem for Mexico

It is. But since they can't solve it there is (for the left) a humanitarian crisis right at our border. There also is the issue that the cartels are funded by us through illegal drug sales and armed by us because the US is the easiest place to buy guns illegally.

 

[BCP1928]

You need to bone up on geography. Also, if they can't get though any longer the cartels aren't going to keep recruiting them.

Which pretty much sums up right-wing border policy: Let the illegal economic migrants come over here to work as usual. They work cheap and can be exploited because they are afraid of discovery. Stop the asylum seekers because they can remain legally and are covered by labor and workplace safety laws.

 

[BPPLEE]

Which pretty much sums up right-wing border policy: Let the illegal economic migrants come over here to work as usual. They work cheap and can be exploited because they are afraid of discovery. Stop the asylum seekers because they can remain legally and are covered by labor and workplace safety laws.

I’m not in favor of having these people taken advantage of. They not only are paid subpar wages they’re taken advantage of being charged outrageous rent and some are afraid to report crimes for fear of being deported.

 

[BCP1928]

I’m not in favor of having these people taken advantage of. They not only are paid subpar wages they’re taken advantage of being charged outrageous rent and some are afraid to report crimes for fear of being deported.

Yes, and as they are basically "in hiding" and trying to stay under the radar, they are less likely to pollute the purity of our cultural institutions, another big issue with the right. On the other hand, asylum seekers are living here openly and can practice their own religion and customs right in front of everybody.

 

[ozso]

Which pretty much sums up right-wing border policy: Let the illegal economic migrants come over here to work as usual. They work cheap and can be exploited because they are afraid of discovery.

That's the left-wing border policy.

Stop the asylum seekers because they can remain legally and are covered by labor and workplace safety laws.

No it's stop anyone, whatever they claim to be, from entering the country illegally. Ever notice how there's not much said about all the immigrants from Asia and India? That's because the enter legally and become productive members of society.

 

[ozso]

The Biden administration is deporting illegals at a high rate. It makes me wonder what you are complaining about but I don't expect you to stop.

It's the left that's complaining against deportation. However if Biden is deporting at a high rate like Trump wants to do, then the left has nothing to complain about. Do you think I'm on the left? I know you're going for a snarky gotcha, but you're doing it wrong.

 

[BCP1928]

That's the left-wing border policy.

No, sorry, the left does a better job of deporting economic illegals than the right.

No it's stop anyone, whatever they claim to be, from entering the country illegally. Ever notice how there's not much said about all the immigrants from Asia and India? That's because the enter legally and become productive members of society.

No, they generally come over the border from Canada.

You can't claim asylum unless you are in the country already--whether legally or illegally.

 

[BCP1928]

It's the left that's complaining against deportation. Do you think I'm on the left? I know you're going for a snarky gotcha, but you're doing it wrong.

No, I'm just trying to tell you the truth to dispel the right-wing lies about the border.

 

[ozso]

No, I'm just trying to tell you the truth to dispel the right-wing lies about the border.

Okay once again you're going all over the place so we're done here.

 

[MrMoe]

And a criminal who wants to live a public life wants to be immune from criminal prosecution, so they can do whatever they want to, and not be held accountable. Also simple logic.

No, immunity isn't a license to do whatever they want to, and not be held accountable.

In the first 25 minutes of this video Ben Shapiro, who is a lawyer, explains what immunity actually entails.

I don't have all the details of every single one of the 34 counts where Trump falsified business records, no. It doesn't matter, though...whether it happened during his presidency or not, he still committed the crimes.

Nobody except those who strongly dislike Trump like you care. Most American are aware the US government is responsible for crimes far worse than Trump.

Sure. And if Trump ever shows that he regrets his past actions and has changed his ways, I'll reconsider my view of him. So far, from what I've seen, that hasn't happened.

I haven't seen Joe Biden show any remorse either.

But at least you concede the point, so that's something. If you're fine with voting for someone like that, that's your call.

You think capitalism is a bad thing?

If you have no problem with Trump's word salads, why would you have a problem with Harris'?

Well so far you haven't given me an example of Trumps word salads, only an example of Trump telling a story about asking someone a "would you rather" joke question.

You're free to base your opinion on whichever random facts or bits and pieces of reality you like, regardless of whether or not they reflect the entirety of the situation.

What would you need to convince you that Biden is not physically or mentally fit to be president?

I'm well aware of how the media works. As I said, I have training in journalism, and have worked in the field. My wife continues to do so, and has for 30 years.

As to lies told by either candidate, well, neither are exactly unique in that. All politicians lie, as do all human beings.

Though, if you want to compare the two, Trump comes out clearly ahead in both the sheer number of lies, as well as the severity of them. If that matters.

According to Politifact:

Biden has 7 lies rated "pants on fire," 63 rated "false" and 60 rated "mostly false."

Trump has 192 lies rated "pants on fire," 392 rated "false" and 199 rated "mostly false."

So, either lies matter, or they don't. Your call.

-- A2SG, if the guy who told 130 lies worries you, but the one who told 783 doesn't, then I have to conclude it isn't the lying that's the problem....

Biden telling less lies doesn't make him any morally superior to Trump. Just one lie is enough to cause destruction. For example the weapons of mass destruction lie that led to the war in Iraq. So they're both the same. Liars. Yet you're still voting for Biden despite this. So I have to conclude it isn't the lying that's the problem....

 

[MrMoe]

OK, let's dance. He told us nothing in the debate when, gee, you'd think he might have had the opportunity. So let's have some details. Immigration perhaps. Where's he going to send millions of immigrants next year? How is he going to do it? How is he going to get agreement from the leaders of whatever country he sends them? Where's he going to keep them before shipping them out?

Let's have some details please.

You can't Google Trump 2024 policies? I'd post them for you but I don't want this to become yet another Biden thread that turns into a thread about Trump.

 

[Bradskii]

You can't Google Trump 2024 policies? I'd post them for you but I don't want this to become yet another Biden thread that turns into a thread about Trump.

Show me where I can find details of removing millions of immigrants next year.

 

[BPPLEE]

You can't Google Trump 2024 policies? I'd post them for you but I don't want this to become yet another Biden thread that turns into a thread about Trump.

Joe Biden has exploded job growth by creating a part-time economy. Part-time jobs have no benefits, no 401k and no future. You have to work 2 or 3 just to make what you made at one full-time job under Trump. Since you are working 2 or more jobs, you have no time for your family and your kids are being raised by liberals in daycare. Here's how Democrat math works. You lose 1 full-time job and gain 3 part-time jobs and Joe Biden just created 2 jobs! And yet your life SUCKS. THIS is why Biden had record low approval on the economy despite "creating a bazillion jobs."