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Peter John, Paul, and etc were firsthand.
Which happend with the bible too.You have to ask?? Ever seen a message go round a room, where it is whispered ear to ear, then compare the starting message to the end one?
Except for all the mistakes they made.The meticulous recopying and precautions and care that went into scripture is astounding.
Plus many sources from different places and people exist to cross check! How unlike asking the next tribe down the river, or in another part of the forest how they retell their legend!!!!
Not true...Eastern Orthodox, Lutherans and a some other Apostlolic denominations also use the eucharist in their worship servicesOnly Catholics eat God, and even they don't eat God exclusively. I think you mean water. Food and WATER.
Originally Posted by posterhuman beings cant live if they dont eat, it means that v all r totly depnded on food and GOD
Not true...Eastern Orthodox, Lutherans and a some other Apostlolic denominations also use the eucharist in their worship services
http://www.christianforums.com/t7585723/
So .. the Communion wafer is really Jesus, isn't that like Sola Scriptura?
There are a lot of differences between the RCC and EOC, even a few regarding the communion.I was under the impression that Luteranism and Eastern Orthodox were both a kind of Catholicism...
Yes, both had messages for moms. They got it loud and clear.It didn't. so it wasn't.
Yes, it has tangible results, unlike your system which is exactly like every other religion.
Eternal life is longer. We win. I have it now. You should also...And longer life, higher infant survival rates, increased standards of living, greater availibility of information... What has Christianity done that another religion couldn't have done?
Now let's not wax childish.You seem to have forgotten eveything I was talking about. Read my previous posts if you're curious. I am not repeating myself again, just know that if this conversation is not to be continued that I won it. Forever.
Alas...too late I guess.I made a root beer float in honor of my glorious victory, which was that conversation. (The one that I won, and you lost. See above.)
Yep, what of it? Are you perceptions better than mine? Possibly, I do have an eye condition.
Losing it I see.However, I am a better debator than you. (See that conversation that I totally WON just now. The other guy was such an idi- Oh wait that was you, sorry about that. I'm sure you're just great. A real swell dude.
Many witnesses. Good folks. Fulfilled prophesy. Jesus rising from the dead, and observed for many weeks.They could be lying, or mistaken. Do they have character witnessess that can vouch for them? Any physical evidence they can provide? Corroborating witnesses?
They killed all the people that tried to crosscheck, they were labelled blasphemers and heretics.
Their message was fussing, that's not a message... it's fussing.Yes, both had messages for moms. They got it loud and clear.
And that would be?My system is to expose your system for what it is.
Except every Christian dies, therefore they do not live forever.Eternal life is longer. We win. I have it now. You should also...
Freedom of speech, you infringin' on my rights? Don't do that. It's childish.Now let's not wax childish.
Yes, it is too late for you to win, as I did that already.Alas...too late I guess.
Yes, you are.Losing it I see.
What do you and others think of the movie "Inherit the Wind"?i havent read all the posts but here is my reply:
evolution is a natural process. its exists as a way for organisms to adapt and survive. who are you to say that it doesnt? did God come down and give some personal revelation? have you ever even taken a genetics class? from what youve said ide venture to say you havent. i have taken a genetics class and a molecular biology class. and i can tell you that the cellular machinery for evolution to happen does exist. it is there. we can see it and test it.
evolution happens purely by accident. there is no overriding force driving it to happen. it all random mutation. if it is a beneficial mutation then the organism can survive better and will pass on its traits more readily to future generations. it is purely survival of the fittest. the strong live to pass on their traits and the weak die and are culled from the gene pool.
even humans have evolved over the milennia. we have gotten taller. look back as recently as the civil war and look at the uniforms. they were typically shorter ppl than we are now. and goliaths having 6 fingers and toes wasnt some sign that made him a monster. its a genetic trait called polydactyly. its a dominant trait that runs in families. if one parent had it you will too. it still exists today. look it up. its also doubtful he was 9 feet tall. search for ppl who are nine feet tall today and then ask your self could they have ever been warriors? doubtful because they have horrible health issues. goliath was probably in the 7- 8 foot range. the ppl were smaller then so he would have looked a giant. today we would just be like "wow youre tall. do you play basketball?"
evolution is not a bad thing it is not evil. dont start raging against something you obviously do not understand just because you are a christian and youre supposed to hate evolution. i am a christian as well as a 4th year biochemistry student. and i can tell you without a doubt that evolution exists. did we come from monkeys? i dont know i wasnt there. God could have done that if he wanted. hes God. who are we to say what he did or did not do. none of us were there. it is doubtful that are inferior minds could even comprehend what took place at creation. so that is probably why God explained it to moses in a such simple manner in genesis. so moses would be able to understand an relate to it.
but this is just my opinion. i wasnt there so i dont really know. all i truly know is what ive learned from my studies.
Many witnesses. Good folks. Fulfilled prophesy. Jesus rising from the dead, and observed for many weeks.
That's not crosschecking, because they don't check out.Nope. We can look at many copies of scripture, and see that they check out.
Except you have no evidence that your deity even exists much less that these things you bring up from the Bible can be proven.The offspring of a species, if I have it right it where the changes take place in this present world. It is also where science assumes that the changes happened for evolution at all times. (no?)
In the bible, we see John the Baptist gave his first prophesy while in the womb. He started kicking and going nuts soon as the Messiah, also in the womb got near! We also see Jacob and Esau fighting constantly in the womb, and this again was a prophesy of the Arab and Jewish fighting that would go on from the two nations that would come from the offspring.
Often, the Almighty through an angel or prophet spoke of offspring not yet born as well. This means that evolution could not possibly have been responsible for the changes, since God was so involved. This means selection comes from God, not nature.
I am not aware of any science that evidences any natural selection in the deep past, when most things that changed evolved and adapted did so..! Therefore, all that is left is looking at the present world and how it now works (that they can perceive) and projecting that onto the far past, to explain different lifeforms.
No... it's a story that has no provenance behind it. You either believe it or you don't. Prophesy is easy to fulfill when the answer is written at the same time as the question.Many witnesses. Good folks. Fulfilled prophesy. Jesus rising from the dead, and observed for many weeks.
Everything God did in Israel, He is doing in the world during this church age. So when it comes to shaddows and type there are many many prophecys in the Old Testement that have been fulfilled and are still going to be fulfilled in the future. If you do not see that, then you have been blinded. It is sad but we have to accept that for those who are perishing they are blind to the truth.Prophesy is easy to fulfill when the answer is written at the same time as the question.
We have all the evidence that we will ever need. Your the one that seems to lack the evidence, not us.Except you have no evidence that your deity even exists much less that these things you bring up from the Bible can be proven.
I really do not think they are much interested in Bible prophecy.Everything God did in Israel, He is doing in the world during this church age. So when it comes to shaddows and type there are many many prophecys in the Old Testement that have been fulfilled and are still going to be fulfilled in the future. If you do not see that, then you have been blinded. It is sad but we have to accept that for those who are perishing they are blind to the truth.
God interpreted the commotion. It was a message. Is it hard to accept that God knows us from the womb and before?Their message was fussing, that's not a message... it's fussing.
No, they sleep. That is, their body does.And that would be?
Except every Christian dies, therefore they do not live forever.
No, I don't tread on the right of babble.Freedom of speech, you infringin' on my rights? Don't do that. It's childish.
By 'losing it' I meant your posts were sinking into incoherency.Yes, it is too late for you to win, as I did that already.
Yes, you are.
Yes they can cross check. For example they keep finding older copies, so we can see what was added to later ones.Proof, or no cigar. Put up or shut up.
That's not crosschecking, because they don't check out.
Because any who disagree are silenced. I call conspiracy!
You are thousands of years too late. He is risen. We saw Him, and the news got out. Try to deal with it.Except you have no evidence that your deity even exists much less that these things you bring up from the Bible can be proven.
In what way?Also, what you're trying to say here? It's not rational.
Yes they can cross check. For example they keep finding older copies, so we can see what was added to later ones.
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