Bible verses on Annihilation?

[GUANO]

"Parish" is a political area division much like a county.

good one

When Jesus taught about,

•“Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:” Matthew 25:41
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• "these shall go away into eternal punishment, Matthew 25:46"

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• "the fire of hell where the fire is not quenched and the worm does not die, Mark 9:43-48"

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• "cast into a fiery furnace where there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth,” Matthew 13:42, Matthew 13:50

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• “But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.” Matthew 18:6

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• “And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” Matthew 7:23

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• “woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if he had not been born. ” Matthew 26:24

Not a parable, but not related to the subject at all...

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These teachings tacitly reaffirmed and sanctioned the existing Jewish view of eternal hell, outlined above. In Matt. 18:6, 26:24, see above, Jesus teaches that there is a fate worse than death or nonexistence. A fate worse than death is also mentioned in Hebrews 10:28-31.

No, the teachings don't confirm that the superstitions are real. It reaffirms that, as long as there are myths and allegories and parables, there will be people who take them literally, like little hopeful children, innocent and pure, just like one of the parables you mentioned---and that sort of childlike faith is very precious to Christ. And it's probably not a good idea to shake or 'offend' your equilibrium.

Heb 10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.​

Jesus is quoted as using the word death 17 times in the gospels, if He wanted to say eternal death in Matt 25:46, that is what He would have said but He didn’t, He said “eternal punishment.” The Sadducees did not believe in the resurrection, they knew that everybody died; rich, poor, young, old, good, bad, men, women, children, infants and knew that it had nothing to do with punishment and was permanent. When Jesus taught “eternal punishment” they would not have understood it as death, it would have meant something worse to them.
…..Jesus knew what the Jews, believed about hell. If the Jews were wrong, why would Jesus teach “eternal punishment” to Jews who believed, "The Lord, the Almighty, will punish them on the Day of Judgment by putting fire and worms into their flesh, so that they cry out with pain unto all eternity," which only reinforced their belief.

Jesus didn't need to say 'eternal death' because the word death itself implies 'the end' of something. "Eternal Death" is not a logical statement.

The Jews, by and in large, did not believe in consciousness after dead then, and they do not believe it now. When you've read the Bible 50 times and see how the various prophets used the words 'fire' and 'worms' throughout scripture you begin to understand what they're talking about--it's not physical, literal fire and worms...

Fire is the nature of God. It's His being. Truth. Righteous Judgement. Righteous judgement causes one's conscience to "burn" with feelings of guilt, shame, and regret.

Worms represent 'terrestrial spirits' that "pick away" at the dead body (or body parts) which represents the vain things you've done in life...

Christians ask for the Fire (God) to burn away impurities and "sacrifice themselves" or, "deny the flesh" in their lives which is why they get to avoid that whole "judgement" part which takes place as the 'second' resurrection...

 

[GUANO]

DW1980

There are also a number of passages that show that the dead are in fact not conscious.

3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.
4 His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish. (Ps. 146:3-4 KJV)

Here David indicates just what we saw in Genesis and Ecclesiastes. The breath goes forth, the man returns to the dust. He also adds that his thoughts perish that very day. If his thoughts perish that day he surely can't be conscious in some other form if his thoughts have perished.

Psalm 37 speaks of the end of the wicked.

8 Cease from anger, and forsake wrath: fret not thyself in any wise to do evil.
9 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth. (Ps. 37:8-9 KJV)

Notice that those who wait on the Lord will inherit the earth (land).

10 For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.
11 But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace. (Ps. 37:10-11 KJV)

20 But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away. (Ps. 37:20 KJV)

Notice the wicked perish. Also note that they burn up. They are consumed. They don't burn for eternity.

34 Wait on the LORD, and keep his way, and he shall exalt thee to inherit the land: when the wicked are cut off, thou shalt see it. (Ps. 37:34 KJV)

35 I have seen the wicked in great power, and spreading himself like a green bay tree.
36 Yet he passed away, and, lo, he was not: yea, I sought him, but he could not be found. (Ps. 37:35-36 KJV)

38 But the transgressors shall be destroyed together: the end of the wicked shall be cut off. (Ps. 37:38 KJV)

These are a few of the passages that show that the dead are dead and not alive in some other form.

Here Davids says that none that die can praise the Lord.

17 The dead praise not the LORD, neither any that go down into silence. (Ps. 115:17 KJV)

It's a pretty common belief among Christians that dead believers are alive and with the Lord. Yet according to David none of the dead can praise the Lord. There is quite a bit in the Scriptures that show this.

The idea of eternal conscious torment is drawn from a few misunderstood passages. Part of this is due to a wrong translation of the word aion. Aion means an age. However, it is sometimes translated as eternal or forever. The word is used of periods of time but the length of that time is determined by the context in which the word is used. We see historical periods divided up as the Stone Age or the Iron Age. These are not identical in length yet they are both called an age. We see the same thing with people. Your age is different than someone else's age.

For example, one passage that is often quoted to support ETC is a passage from Jesus.

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. (Matt. 25:46 KJV)

The word translated everlasting is aionios, the adjective form of aion. Here it is translated everlasting. However, that is wrong and we can see that from the words of Jude. Jude said that Sodom and Gomorrah were an example of aionios (everlasting) fire.

7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. (Jude 1:7 KJV)

Sodom and Gomorrah sufferend aionios fire. Well, we know that those two cities are not still burning today. If they were people would see it and know about it. They're not still burning. This shows us that aion/aionios doesn't mean eternal. It means an age, they burn for period of time. All of the passages that are used to try to support ETC likewise can be understood other than the way they are presented by those holding the ETC position. The easiest way to show they don't support ETC is to study them in context. The context will show that the passage is not support for ETC.

I haven't seen Isaiah 38 thrown out there yet either:

"For the grave cannot praise thee, death can not celebrate thee: they that go down into the pit cannot hope for thy truth."

 

[Der Alte]

I haven't seen Isaiah 38 thrown out there yet either:
"For the grave cannot praise thee, death can not celebrate thee: they that go down into the pit cannot hope for thy truth."

Parable.

 

[Der Alte]

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You'll excuse me if I ignore all your posts after this. There are lots of misguided folks that want to dismiss anything/everything which contradicts their assumptions/presuppositions as what I call SPAM-Fig, symbolic, poetic, allegory,

Not a parable, but not related to the subject at all...

A ploy to avoid addressing my point. More reason to ignore you posts. I don't post off topic.

No, the teachings don't confirm that the superstitions are real. It reaffirms that, as long as there are myths and allegories and parables, there will be people who take them literally, like little hopeful children, innocent and pure, just like one of the parables you mentioned---and that sort of childlike faith is very precious to Christ. And it's probably not a good idea to shake or 'offend' your equilibrium.

If I understand you correctly you are saying that Jesus taught myths and allegories, rather than truth, to people who already believed those myths and allegories because their "childlike faith" was very precious to Christ. And for some inexplicable reason you think this nonsense will shake or offend my equilibrium, whatever that is supposed to mean. Further reason to ignore your posts.

Jesus didn't need to say 'eternal death' because the word death itself implies 'the end' of something. "Eternal Death" is not a logical statement.

Exactly my point. Some folks say that when Jesus said "eternal punishment' He really meant "eternal death."

The Jews, by and in large, did not believe in consciousness after dead then, and they do not believe it now. When you've read the Bible 50 times and see how the various prophets used the words 'fire' and 'worms' throughout scripture you begin to understand what they're talking about--it's not physical, literal fire and worms...

No, zero, none evidence on the other hand I provided credible, verifiable, historical evidence from the Jewish Encyclopedia, Encyclopedia Judaica and the Talmud that many Jews did in fact believe in a place of eternal fiery punishment and they called it both sheol and gehinnom[gehenna]. When you read the Bible 50 times you will filter everything through your existing assumptions/presuppositions not what Jews actually understood and believed.

Fire is the nature of God. It's His being. Truth. Righteous Judgement. Righteous judgement causes one's conscience to "burn" with feelings of guilt, shame, and regret.
Worms represent 'terrestrial spirits' that "pick away" at the dead body (or body parts) which represents the vain things you've done in life...
Christians ask for the Fire (God) to burn away impurities and "sacrifice themselves" or, "deny the flesh" in their lives which is why they get to avoid that whole "judgement" part which takes place as the 'second' resurrection

Thank you for all this unsupported opinion and supposition. Goodbye.

 

[Butch5]

I haven't seen Isaiah 38 thrown out there yet either:

"For the grave cannot praise thee, death can not celebrate thee: they that go down into the pit cannot hope for thy truth."

There are quite a few.