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The beginning or the end never happened? We'll check back with you to find out what happened I guess. Ha.Because it didn't happen.
Great so forget about it. Concentrate on independently verifying your claims. We wait.You have a claim in an old text and no way to independently verify it
Guess I can believe either you or Jesus...Hmm, sorry, I'll go with the Almighty, thanks.. Thus the claim should be treated as a story, not a fact.
Ecc 3: 11 He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the hearts of men; yet they cannot fathom what God has done from beginning to end
An allegory can be truth as well.
A parable is not either. It is only opened to His sheep though. For people to try and use the word 'allegory' to diminish the power and meaning of the bible is wrong.The truth of an allegory is not necessarily "hidden."
No, they're just using the word "allegory." The authority of scripture rests on its divine authorship, not on it adherence to any particular literary genre.A parable is not either. It is only opened to His sheep though. For people to try and use the word 'allegory' to diminish the power and meaning of the bible is wrong.
The way it was used was to rob reality from Scripture. If one chooses to interpret the bible as a pack of foolish lying stories, fine. Don't preach that nonsense to me though, without expecting some response.No, they're just using the word "allegory." The authority of scripture rests on its divine authorship, not on it adherence to any particular literary genre.
Do you really think that a story written by God would be a "foolish lying story?"The way it was used was to rob reality from Scripture. If one chooses to interpret the bible as a pack of foolish lying stories, fine. Don't preach that nonsense to me though, without expecting some response.
No need to try to inject an initial condition of age....Anyone who has even attempted to study astrophysics at all knows there is zero chance that we will ever fathom what happened at the beginning or the makings of this universe. Doesn't even take a belief in God to know that.
Also, God could have easily created the universe 6000 years ago with an initial condition as if the universe was 6 billion years old. That is called a warm start. That alone shows how we really have no idea. A scientist can observe red shift and conclude the big bang happened billions of years ago, but he will never be able to rule out that a Creator might have created it with a red shift 6,000 years ago.
Not at all. Just people’s refusal to account for time dilation in an accelerating universe as one calculates backwards in time to when clocks and decay rates happened faster.
The beginning or the end never happened?
We'll check back with you to find out what happened I guess. Ha.
Great so forget about it. Concentrate on independently verifying your claims. We wait.
Guess I can believe either you or Jesus...Hmm, sorry, I'll go with the Almighty, thanks.
More specifically the beginning refers to this world.
Anyone who has even attempted to study astrophysics at all knows there is zero chance that we will ever fathom what happened at the beginning or the makings of this universe. Doesn't even take a belief in God to know that.
Also, God could have easily created the universe 6000 years ago with an initial condition as if the universe was 6 billion years old. That is called a warm start. That alone shows how we really have no idea. A scientist can observe red shift and conclude the big bang happened billions of years ago, but he will never be able to rule out that a Creator might have created it with a red shift 6,000 years ago.
Yes. If the story said He formed man from dust, and actually man came from animals, that would be a foolish lying story.Do you really think that a story written by God would be a "foolish lying story?"
Ok, we have an admission that you don't know what allegory is but you still want to argue against it.At least I know what truth is.
The sun frozen in the sky and many of the other stories told in the Bible never happened.
Looking at this and other posts of yours, I don't see any meat to that claim.At least I actually make the attempt to independently verify what I accept as true.
Go where you like. However talking about evidence is not the same as producing it.I'll go with the evidence. I don't know why you wouldn't do the same.
In science, evidence is just a canvas on which beliefs are painted.I mean, if your position is correct, that's what the evidence is going to show, isn't it?
Name what you consider an allegory in the bible on any important creation issue and we will see how you fare.Ok, we have an admission that you don't know what allegory is but you still want to argue against it.
Lol
Don't be so coy. Somebody like you who knows so much more than everyone else must know there are hundreds of passages in the Bible where science doesn't support the claims. Most of Genesis, much of Exodus or any miracle are obvious examples.Actual evidence please.....
Thank you, dad (and I mean that sincerely) for putting it so clearly. Do you believe, then, that the authority of Scripture depends on its verifiable historicity, rather than its divine authorship?Yes. If the story said He formed man from dust, and actually man came from animals, that would be a foolish lying story.
Since you can't de verify that Adam was real or creation as per Scripture, we have a situation of believe it or not. There is no history for that time. History started after Babel.Thank you, dad (and I mean that sincerely) for putting it so clearly. Do you believe, then, that the authority of Scripture depends on its verifiable historicity, rather than its divine authorship?
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