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1watchman

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Yes, "everyone gets what they want; and if one wants the salvation of God they will find it is John 3; John 14; Romans 8; etc. --and all the four Gospel books; then learn of Church truth in the Epistles following and the way of life for "born again" saints. The Old Testament is good for history, but in this age we NEED the New Testament. Listening to the reasonings of men is not so good, unless they are sound in Bible truth.
 
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Yes, "everyone gets what they want; and if one wants the salvation of God they will find it is John 3; John 14; Romans 8; etc. --and all the four Gospel books; then learn of Church truth in the Epistles following and the way of life for "born again" saints. The Old Testament is good for history, but in this age we NEED the New Testament. Listening to the reasonings of men is not so good, unless they are sound in Bible truth.

Every person who believes there is a gospel agrees that the gospel is simple. Everyone just believes different simple gospels and all know they have truth and love truth. How? They all do the exact same things to prove their beliefs true and all opposing beliefs false. And we wonder why every person doing that gets the exact same result, an unquestionable belief that their beliefs are fact.

Pick one ... Mormon, Roman Catholic, Jehovah's Witness, Christian Science, Baptist, .... if you do these these things, everyone from every belief group can know their beliefs are fact.

They …

1.) Gather whatever they can “use” to prove what they “want to believe” to be truth.

2.) Accumulate all evidence they believe proves all opposing views incorrect.

3.) Assume their beliefs are unquestionable truth, and interpret everything in such a way as to make it all support, or at least not negate, their beliefs. Think about it. If your beliefs are unquestionable truths, all “valid” data, must support … or at least not negate, your infallible beliefs, right?

4.) Reinterpret, ignore, discredit, invalidate … anything that doesn’t seem to fit with their views, Why? Our beliefs are “Fact” Valid data interpreted correctly can’t contradict the facts.

5.) Gather all the other experiences, feelings, data … to solidify their beliefs such as signs, wonders, spiritual gifts or facts about your belief group. Things like: we have a burning in the bosom, we speak in tongues, we perform signs or wonders, a statue of Mary came to life and told us our belief groups views are correct, we have prayed to God for the truth and received “feelings” or even signs from heaven. Or, on a more concrete level: Our belief group is the oldest, largest, fastest growing, wealthiest, has the most experts with doctorates… Include anything that adds assurance that your views and belief group have the most truth.

But that's the point, just like you, they all believe in a simple gospel and they all know that if you just look at the passages they use that support their beliefs and refute yours, and interpret them properly, and look at the other proof they have, everyone can have the proof they need to believe the truth. And they are all correct, JUST LIKE YOU. If we take your selected passes, facts, verses and interpret them according to the meaning you know they have, we will all convert to your beliefs, and if we do the same with the Mormons we will all become Mormons. Pick a group. Use all their selected data and interpret their way and you will become like them. And they all know their way is the only correct way.
 
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I agree people use the Bible to make a religion, but if they are honest and take "all the counsel of God" - "rightly dividing the Word of Truth", they will arrive at the truth of God as given, rather than scrambling verses to proof what they want it to say.
The four Gospels are plainly stated in such as the KJV Bible, at least, and Church truth is plainly stated there in the Epistles, etc. As the saying goes: 'a mind persuaded against its will, is of the same opinion still'. Some of these religionists use even the Old Testament, to try and disprove the New Testament as given by the Lord Jesus.
NO! these religionists are not 'just like me' as you charge! They are NOT "born again" saints of God by the new spiritual life given by God to those who receive His "...beloved Son": the Lord Jesus Christ. I was saved over 60 years ago and know His Word of Truth very well. I hope you will find that true also.
 
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I agree people use the Bible to make a religion, but if they are honest and take "all the counsel of God" - "rightly dividing the Word of Truth", they will arrive at the truth of God as given, rather than scrambling verses to proof what they want it to say.
The four Gospels are plainly stated in such as the KJV Bible, at least, and Church truth is plainly stated there in the Epistles, etc. As the saying goes: 'a mind persuaded against its will, is of the same opinion still'. Some of these religionists use even the Old Testament, to try and disprove the New Testament as given by the Lord Jesus.
NO! these religionists are not 'just like me' as you charge! They are NOT "born again" saints of God by the new spiritual life given by God to those who receive His "...beloved Son": the Lord Jesus Christ. I was saved over 60 years ago and know His Word of Truth very well. I hope you will find that true also.

Every person in every belief group who believes themselves to be Christians agrees with you. "If they are honest and take "all the counsel of God", "Rightly dividing the word of truth" they will arrive at the truth God has given. " Ask a Mormon, a Jehovah's Witness, a Baptist, ... they all agree with you. If you do as God commands and honestly seek after truth you will end up holding fast to their core beliefs, why? Their core beliefs "are" "truth", and all correct interpretations of all valid data always align with the truth ... their beliefs.

The Methodology previously listed is what allows everyone from every belief group on this planet to know that they love the truth and have the truth. Everyone gets an unshakeable, unquestionable belief that their beliefs are fact, closing their eyes and ears to even considering anything else?

The "Many" on the broad path that leads to destruction is, from the context the same many who believe Jesus is their Lord, God and Savior, and who perform the same marvelous works "in His Name" that all the true Christians of the day performed. Yet ... it is the few who are saved. Everyone gets what they want using the Methodology above. You can believe anything under the sun to be absolute unquestionable truth, and indeed, God does have a hand in it, which explains how they can cast out demons, perform works of power and prophesy in His name and still be lost.

2Th 2:10 and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. 11 For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, 12 in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness. 13 But we should always give thanks to God for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and faith in the truth.

It is because I see that everyone who uses that Methodology above fits in with verses 11-12 and not 13 that I say anything at all. I hate to see anyone on the broad path that leads to destruction go without a warning. There is hope though. Even as Paul is writing this, there were those who received a love of truth that far exceeded that of those mentioned in 10-12, ... those chosen for salvation through the sanctification of the Spirit and faith/belief in the truth. Some few ... pass the test, the many will stand before Him and hear, "Depart from Me ye who work iniquity for I never knew you." Iniquity, wickedness ...if you do not love truth enough to forsake the Methodology every person on the planet can use to hold fast to their beliefs and reject everything else, you qualify and you will get the help of God Himself to hold fast to "what you want to believe" "as" truth. It is a personal choice.
 
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What is a good way to read the Bible in order for Jesus to speak to you?
as a NT christian read the NT first. then maybe get like a Ot bible studies book, and read that as it will condense the ot down into all the main stories and plot lines. which is a lot easier than reading it out right. if and when serious study is needed find/seek out a mentor.
 
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