Bible in ancient Asia

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Hi
This is about unproven history as a theory. Anyway..
Jews in Babylon were released by Cyrus of Persia after 70 years. Persian tribes such as Scythians and Kambojas ruled north India defeating Greek kings around 2000 years ago.
Roman trading ports in south India continued until 1800 years ago with some Byzantine Church contact after that. During this era the Matsya Purana text was written about a flood . The giant fish-man the god Vishnu warned Manu the human fore-father to take seeds of plants in a boat . There were 7 wise men who came through the flood as did Noah with 7 others. The text was known in Indonesia.
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Well then, where is this heading to ?
So we go from the beginning to the end. In Yorta Yorta language on the Murray , an elder told me , a recent constructed name for Jesus is "Manutha Wanda". In Indonesia, manusia is "man" and in Sanskrit:
मानुष्य mAnuSya n. manhood
mAnuSya n. manliness
mAnuSya n. human nature or condition
mAnuSya n. humanity
Skr v > Indonesian w ( vana > wana)
वन्दना vandanA f. mark or symbol impressed on the body
vandanA f. reverence
vandanA f. adoration
vandanA f. worship
vandanA f. praise
Old Java language has :
wanda (Skt praising, extolling).
Now , back to Manu :
मनु manu m. sacred text
मनु manu m. mankind
Of course there are co-incidences and I'm not saying that Hindus , ancient Indonesians or pre-British Aboriginals were Christian.
Sanskrit mana means "mind" and is connected with manu and having the word manusia then Aboriginal people today may well use it for Jesus the Son of man. But it is intriguing that Matt 24.37 says " But as the days of Noe were so shall also the coming of the Son of man be." _ KJV.
Both Sanskrit and German have this tradition: " Most probably man 'human being' is a secularized divine name" from Mannus [Tacitus, "Germania," chap. 2], "believed to be the progenitor of the human race."
And Manu is linked with the Murray-Darling river legend .
all questions gratefully accepted.
 
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No questions . all good.
" Now long, long time ago of course, in the beginning, when there was no people, no trees, no plants whatever on this land, "Guthi-guthi", the spirit of our ancestral being, he lived up in the sky.
. Old Pundu, the Cod, it was his duty to drag and create the river known as the Darling River today. "
Ngarrindjeri Regional Authority » Ngurunderi – Dreaming ...
www.ngarrindjeri.org.au/about-us/ngurunderi-dreaming-of-the...
A giant cod fish (Ponde) swam ahead of Ngurunderi,
"The fish was dragged up onto a sand shoal where Ngurunderi cut it into many small pieces. One piece he held up, and, as he threw it into the lake, he called, 'You, boney bream!' As he threw the next piece, he called, 'You, perch!' Then he cut another, 'You, callop!' Another, 'You, catfish!' Yet another, 'You, mudfish!' So he cut all the pieces, throwing them into the water, making the fish. The small pieces he threw in to form sprats. Then he threw the last piece, 'You, Murray cod!' "
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Pundu resembles the word Pandya and other Indonesian words.

" The dynasty ruled parts of South India from around 600 BCE (Early Pandyan Kingdom) to first half of 17th century CE. They initially ruled their country Pandya Nadu from Korkai, a seaport on the southernmost tip of the Indian Peninsula, and in later times moved to Madurai. Fish being their flag, Pandyas were experts in water management, agriculture(mostly near river banks) and fisheries and they were eminent sailors and sea traders too. Pandyan was well known since ancient times, with contacts, even diplomatic, reaching the Roman Empire. "
'Matsya Purana.The text is named after the half-human (upper half), half-fish incarnation of Hindu god Vishnu called Matsya."
मत्स्य matsya m. " fish ".
" Ngurunderi pursued the fish (who, like many totem animals in Aboriginal myths, is often portrayed as a man."
"The Bhagavata Purana ... as Matsya. Manu . and the king of Dravida country (South India), was performing severe austerities, sustaining only on water.."
" Bhagavata Purana (VIII.24.13). Manu is stated to have been a King from the Dravida province ."

Indonesian language.
pandega 1 "employees on a fishing vessel ". 2 " Boy or Girl Scouts".
pandu " guide ".
pandom "compass ".
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" The compass is mentioned to fourth century AD Tamil nautical books; In its Indian form, the wet compass often consisted of a fish-shaped magnet, float in a bowl filled with oil..The earliest reference to an iron fish-like compass in the Islamic world occurs in a Persian book from 1232."
"Kediri or Kadiri (also known as Panjalu) was a Hindu Javanese Kingdom based in East Java from 1042 to around 1222."
It possibly has links with the city of Kadiri , Andhra Pradesh SE India , of Pandya . At this time the Pandji legends were written in Indonesia with Yuyu Kang Kang story about a river being blocked and released by a crab with a fishy smell. Hindu traditions were adapted in Indonesia to local forms and they kept the antique god Indra who was replaced in India around 2000 years ago. Indra made sacred pools in SE Asia and sent rains, as a warrior king. He has a statue in Bali Indonesia.
In 1222 king Kertajaya of Kediri in Java told his Hindu-Buddhist priests to worship him as Shiva. They rebelled and Ken Arok attacked. Kertajaya " disappeared without trace ", " went to the land of gods" _ G Coedes 1968.
Bundjalung people of north NSW remember that a boat arrived from Ngareenbil "overseas islands" ( meaning "your beloved countryman" in Old Balinese language). The 3 brothers gave laws to countries. Their names and the grandmother's name are from O Bali language similar to Javanese. They landed at the mouth of the Clarence river which leads to Tenterfield and headwaters of the Darling river.
any questions.......
 
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" Ngurunderi knew it was time for him to enter the spirit world. He crossed to Kangaroo Island and travelled to its western end. After first throwing his spears into the sea, he dived in, before rising to become a star in the Milky Way. Before Ngurunderi left the earth to live in the Milky Way he told the people 'I am going first, you will come after me.' "
:Ngurunderi - An Aboriginal Dreaming, The Culture of the Ngarrindjeri People, The South Australian Museum Catalogue, 1989
" Finally he dived into the sea to cleanse himself of his old life, and went up into the sky, Waieruwar, the spirit world."

Old Javanese :wayah (Skt wayas, vigorous age, prime of life; any period of life, age) .
In Ngarrindjeri , ruwe means "country".
Ruwa in Sinhala language, Sri Lanka , means 'looks or features.'
Then Waieruwar may mean " prime of life. country", eternal perfection of living.
" The Aboriginal peoples of the Darling and Murray Rivers are gathering for Murrundi Ruwe Pangari Ringbalin (Ngarrindjeri for : River Country Spirit Ceremony)."
Sanskrit ring balin is : " moving slowly. warrior" ; Balinese. "with .warrior". The ceremony is walking along the Darling river in the steps of the warrior Ngurunderi.
 
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