Bible Ignorance About God's Israel

[EclipseEventSigns]

It seems I do have to modify my thinking about this subject. There is research that has existed since the 1940's specific to the subject of the "lost tribes" which I was not aware of. Find it here, starting on page 59.
"The Biblical Archaeologist"
Scholars have estimated that the population of the northern kingdom of Israel was more than 500,000 (based on the records of David's census). There have been found official records of Sargon, the Assyrian who conquered the region and removed the population. Historical records reveal that he removed 27, 290 people out of the population - mostly the leadership in Samaria, the capital city. That's only about 1/20 - 1/50 of the entire population.
So my assumption, again from uninformed teachers that state Assyria removed the entire population of Israel, is very much in error. So thanks for spurring me on to understand the correct facts from history.

 

[Dan Perez]

It seems I do have to modify my thinking about this subject. There is research that has existed since the 1940's specific to the subject of the "lost tribes" which I was not aware of. Find it here, starting on page 59.
"The Biblical Archaeologist"
Scholars have estimated that the population of the northern kingdom of Israel was more than 500,000 (based on the records of David's census). There have been found official records of Sargon, the Assyrian who conquered the region and removed the population. Historical records reveal that he removed 27, 290 people out of the population - mostly the leadership in Samaria, the capital city. That's only about 1/20 - 1/50 of the entire population.
So my assumption, again from uninformed teachers that state Assyria removed the entire population of Israel, is very much in error. So thanks for spurring me on to understand the correct facts from history.

And I have had to change many of my views , many times , mostly , because , I never knew of them in my years of going to different assemblies !

dan p

 

[Davy]

Lost? What does that even mean? If they quit circumcising their children, they were no longer Israel. Inter married with other people. Thats the only thing that lost could mean, I would think.

No more than the Jews intermarried throughout their history. See Ezra 9 with how the Jews of the "house of Judah" mixed with the Canaanites during their 70 years Babylon captivity. No wonder during their Babylon captivity the Jews quit using the Hebrew language, and the old Hebrew character writing changed, and they devised a philosophical sage work of 'men's traditions' like the Babylonian Talmud to follow instead of God's written Word directly.

 

[ralliann]

No more than the Jews intermarried throughout their history.

Yes, intermarriage but which they kept the circumcision of their sons, and entire household. As for the priesthood they were to marry women of Levitical descent.

Passover/ unleavened bread......

Ez 6:21 And the children of Israel, which were come again out of captivity, and all such as had separated themselves unto them from the filthiness of the heathen of the land, to seek the LORD God of Israel, did eat,

Those which did according to their abominations...

Ez 9:1 Now when these things were done, the princes came to me, saying, The people of Israel, and the priests, and the Levites, have not separated themselves from the people of the lands, doing according to their abominations, even of the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Jebusites, the Ammonites, the Moabites, the Egyptians, and the Amorites.

Simply marrying a foreign woman, was not the crime (unless, a priest). It was keeping the faith, which cannot be done apart from circumcision. As Moses wife said

Ex 4:25 Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me.
Ex 4:26 So he let him go: then she said, A bloody husband thou art, because of the circumcision.

 

[Davy]

Yes, intermarriage but which they kept the circumcision of their sons, and entire household. As for the priesthood they were to marry women of Levitical descent.

Passover/ unleavened bread......

Ez 6:21 And the children of Israel, which were come again out of captivity, and all such as had separated themselves unto them from the filthiness of the heathen of the land, to seek the LORD God of Israel, did eat,

Those which did according to their abominations...

Ez 9:1 Now when these things were done, the princes came to me, saying, The people of Israel, and the priests, and the Levites, have not separated themselves from the people of the lands, doing according to their abominations, even of the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Jebusites, the Ammonites, the Moabites, the Egyptians, and the Amorites.

Simply marrying a foreign woman, was not the crime (unless, a priest). It was keeping the faith, which cannot be done apart from circumcision. As Moses wife said

Ex 4:25 Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me.
Ex 4:26 So he let him go: then she said, A bloody husband thou art, because of the circumcision.

My point was in response to those who tried to suggest the ten lost tribes became 'lost' because of inter-marrying, which is not true, because the Jews were guilty of inter-marrying too.

And YES God DID... forbid the children of Israel from taking wives of the Canaanite nations; sounds like you need to go back to Judges 2 & 3 and read, and especially Deuteronomy 20 where God commanded the children of Israel to 'literally' wipe out 7 nations in the land of Canaan.

 

[ralliann]

My point was in response to those who tried to suggest the ten lost tribes became 'lost' because of inter-marrying, which is not true, because the Jews were guilty of inter-marrying too.

And YES God DID... forbid the children of Israel from taking wives of the Canaanite nations; sounds like you need to go back to Judges 2 & 3 and read, and especially Deuteronomy 20 where God commanded the children of Israel to 'literally' wipe out 7 nations in the land of Canaan.

Deut 20:13 And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword:
14 But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the LORD thy God hath given thee.

Deut 20:17 But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee:

Deut 21:10 ¶ When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the LORD thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive,
11 And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;
12 Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house; and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;
13 And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife.

 

[Davy]

Deut 20:13 And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword:
14 But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the LORD thy God hath given thee.

Deut 20:17 But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee:

Deut 21:10 ¶ When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the LORD thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive,
11 And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;
12 Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house; and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;
13 And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife.

You butchered that Scripture. Here is the PROPER reading...

Deut 20:10-18
10 When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace unto it.

11 And it shall be, if it make thee answer of peace, and open unto thee, then it shall be, that all the people that is found therein shall be tributaries unto thee, and they shall serve thee.

12 And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege it:

13 And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword:

14 But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the LORD thy God hath given thee.

15 Thus shalt thou do unto all the cities which are very far off from thee, which are not of the cities of these nations.

16 But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:

17 But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee:

18 That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the LORD your God.
KJV


The nations OUTSIDE the land of Canaan, God told the children of Israel to offer peace with them, and only if they chose to war, to kill the males, but take their women and children and their spoils for themselves.

BUT... of the Canaanite cities, God told the children of Israel 'TO SAVE ALIVE NOTHING THAT BREATHETH.' Then God named the Canaanite peoples specifically.

Then per Judges 2 & 3, God was angry at the children of Israel because they failed to destroy all those Canaanite peoples, but were allowing them to live among them.

 

[ralliann]

You butchered that Scripture. Here is the PROPER reading...

Deut 20:10-18
10 When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace unto it.

11 And it shall be, if it make thee answer of peace, and open unto thee, then it shall be, that all the people that is found therein shall be tributaries unto thee, and they shall serve thee.

12 And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege it:

13 And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword:

14 But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the LORD thy God hath given thee.

15 Thus shalt thou do unto all the cities which are very far off from thee, which are not of the cities of these nations.

16 But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:

17 But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee:

18 That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the LORD your God.
KJV


The nations OUTSIDE the land of Canaan, God told the children of Israel to offer peace with them, and only if they chose to war, to kill the males, but take their women and children and their spoils for themselves.

BUT... of the Canaanite cities, God told the children of Israel 'TO SAVE ALIVE NOTHING THAT BREATHETH.' Then God named the Canaanite peoples specifically.

Then per Judges 2 & 3, God was angry at the children of Israel because they failed to destroy all those Canaanite peoples, but were allowing them to live among them.

Uriah, a loyal soldier in Davids army was a Hittite. Either you are not reading that correctly, or it was to the third or fourth generation they were to not allow people into the congregation. It was not a standing order because Hittites were among Israel.

2Sa 12:9 Wherefore hast thou despised the commandment of the LORD, to do evil in his sight? thou hast killed Uriah the Hittite with the sword, and hast taken his wife to be thy wife, and hast slain him with the sword of the children of Ammon.
I do not know if Bathsheba was Hittite or not. But Uriah her husband was....

 

[Davy]

Uriah, a loyal soldier in Davids army was a Hittite. Either you are not reading that correctly, or it was to the third or fourth generation they were to not allow people into the congregation. It was not a standing order because Hittites were among Israel.

2Sa 12:9 Wherefore hast thou despised the commandment of the LORD, to do evil in his sight? thou hast killed Uriah the Hittite with the sword, and hast taken his wife to be thy wife, and hast slain him with the sword of the children of Ammon.
I do not know if Bathsheba was Hittite or not. But Uriah her husband was....

The Deuteronomy 20 Scripture is an EASY read, GOD's Own Words directly!

Your problem is that you simply want to deny what He said there in Deut.20. You even TRIED TO DISGUISE HIS WORDS IN YOUR POST, showing how DISHONEST you are!

And if you had checked the Judges 2 & 3 chapters that I had pointed to, you would have KNOWN that God was angry at the children of Israel for NOT obeying His command to destroy those Canaanites, SO HE SAID HE WOULD LET THEM DWELL AMONG THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL TO TEST... THEM WITH, to see if Israel would follow Him, or not!!!

So that is WHY there was a Hittite soldier in David's army, who's wife David coveted!

And then IF... you would STUDY more... of the Old Testament... INSTEAD OF JUST MOUTHING OFF AT ME, you'd also learn about the following in Solomon's time...

1 Kings 9:17-22
17 And Solomon built Gezer, and Beth-horon the nether,

18 and Baalath, and Tadmor in the wilderness, in the land,

19 And all the cities of store that Solomon had, and cities for his chariots, and cities for his horsemen, and that which Solomon desired to build in Jerusalem, and in Lebanon, and in all the land of his dominion.

20 And all the people that were left of the Amorites, Hittites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites, which were not of the children of Israel,
21 Their children that were left after them in the land, whom the children of Israel also were not able utterly to destroy, upon those did Solomon levy a tribute of bondservice unto this day.

22 But of the children of Israel did Solomon make no bondmen: but they were men of war, and his servants, and his princes, and his captains, and rulers of his chariots, and his horsemen.
KJV

 

[ralliann]

The Deuteronomy 20 Scripture is an EASY read, GOD's Own Words directly!

Your problem is that you simply want to deny what He said there in Deut.20. You even TRIED TO DISGUISE HIS WORDS IN YOUR POST, showing how DISHONEST you are!

And if you had checked the Judges 2 & 3 chapters that I had pointed to, you would have KNOWN that God was angry at the children of Israel for NOT obeying His command to destroy those Canaanites, SO HE SAID HE WOULD LET THEM DWELL AMONG THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL TO TEST... THEM WITH, to see if Israel would follow Him, or not!!!

So that is WHY there was a Hittite soldier in David's army, who's wife David coveted!

And then IF... you would STUDY more... of the Old Testament... INSTEAD OF JUST MOUTHING OFF AT ME, you'd also learn about the following in Solomon's time...

1 Kings 9:17-22
17 And Solomon built Gezer, and Beth-horon the nether,

18 and Baalath, and Tadmor in the wilderness, in the land,

19 And all the cities of store that Solomon had, and cities for his chariots, and cities for his horsemen, and that which Solomon desired to build in Jerusalem, and in Lebanon, and in all the land of his dominion.

20 And all the people that were left of the Amorites, Hittites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites, which were not of the children of Israel,
21 Their children that were left after them in the land, whom the children of Israel also were not able utterly to destroy, upon those did Solomon levy a tribute of bondservice unto this day.

22 But of the children of Israel did Solomon make no bondmen: but they were men of war, and his servants, and his princes, and his captains, and rulers of his chariots, and his horsemen.
KJV

David also bought a threshing field from a Jebusite.
2 Sam 24:16 And when the angel stretched out his hand upon Jerusalem to destroy it, the LORD repented him of the evil, and said to the angel that destroyed the people, It is enough: stay now thine hand. And the angel of the LORD was by the threshingplace of Araunah the Jebusite.
He did not kill him.

 

[Davy]

David also bought a threshing field from a Jebusite.
2 Sam 24:16 And when the angel stretched out his hand upon Jerusalem to destroy it, the LORD repented him of the evil, and said to the angel that destroyed the people, It is enough: stay now thine hand. And the angel of the LORD was by the threshingplace of Araunah the Jebusite.
He did not kill him.

It is too... late. You have been REBUKED for falseness, and your butchered attempt at Deut.20 is listed for all to see.

 

[ralliann]

It is too... late. You have been REBUKED for falseness, and your butchered attempt at Deut.20 is listed for all to see.

okie dokie. If you dont want to listen, then don't. Good day.

 

[Christian Gedge]

Genesis of Dispensational Theology

Awesome video BAB. Well worth taking the time to listen.

 

[Davy]

Certainly not a problem seeing that a reader is free to believe that when the scripture says this: "Blessed be the LORD, who has given rest to His people Israel according to all that He promised. Not one word has failed of all the good promises He made through His servant Moses." into suggesting here on the forums that it means: "Blessed be the LORD, who has given rest to His people Israel NOT according to all that He promised. He has failed of all the good promises He made through His servant Moses because Solomons married foreign wives". Something which needed more words to explain, part two of Isaiah 28:13

You know just by repeating the same thing a second time around with twice the amount of words doesn't make it double down true?

Norbert L keeps REPEATING that single idea from 1 Kings 8:56 which was BEFORE even God's removing the kingdom from Solomon later per 1 Kings 11! It is Norbert L that sounds like a broken record, and also showing he is NOT REALLY INTERESTED in what God's Word actually says, but is trying to further some sort of political agenda.

 

[Davy]

Awesome video BAB. Well worth taking the time to listen.

That document is NOT TO BE TRUSTED.

Edward Irving was one of the first, along with John Nelson Darby, in 1830s Great Britain, that began the false Pre-trib Rapture theory. Prior to that date, the Christian Church had always held to a Post-tribulational coming of Christ Jesus to gather His Church.

Even per John Darby's later writings, he later separated from Edward Irving because some of the wild spirit manifestations going on in Irving's church.

FURTHERMORE... that post has NOTHING to do with the subject of THIS THREAD.

 

[Davy]

Now, as I have said in my OP, most brethren do not... understand the Biblical difference between the Jews of the "house of Judah", and the ten northern tribes that were called "Israel" after God rent the kingdom from Solomon's son Rehoboam (1 Kings 11).

It is impossible to separate God's Promises to Israel apart from Christ's Church, simply because the majority of scattered Israelites are who would become the progenitors of the historical Christian nations.

Something else my Christian brethren should understand: there are false dispensationalist factions within some churches today that were created by Jewish converts that preach the falsehoods per Judaism's theories, and not what God's written Word actually teaches. They are against any teaching like what I have shown about God having separated the Israelites into two separate kingdoms and houses. They even deny the mere idea in God's Word about the 2 houses ("house of Judah" and "house of Israel"). Why would they do that denial?

It is because that is what the orthodox Jews they follow wants them to do and think. The orthodox unbelieving Jews do not believe Lord Jesus Christ is The Messiah. So they will use any chance to infiltrate the Christian Churches and push their propaganda against The Bible and Christ's Church.

Because God's Word reveals that the ten tribes of Israel have been directly involved in Christ's Church all along, even with the original establishing of Christ's Church among the western Christian nations of history, there is no way one can try... and separate God's Promises to Israel away from Christ's Church.

The orthodox unbelieving Jews in Jerusalem today have no king. The western Christian nations do have kings, and queens, many of them, a large royal family all over Europe! The little nation called Israel in the middle east does not even control all of the city of Jerusalem today! The Arabs have half of it.

The nation of Israel cannot match all the great number of natural resources that the western Christian nations have, which is another one of God's Promises to Israel all the way back from Abraham.

The nation of Israel in the middle east has a military that cannot compare to the great military strength of the western Christian nations, which again was a Promise to Israel that originated back to Abraham.

And if one actually... considers how many peoples the northern ten tribes made up prior to 1 Kings 11, and they all were scattered, that is a much, much greater number of Israelites than the 3 tribe kingdom of Judah that remained in the land. A people as many as the stars of the sky, and sands of the sea, another of God's Promise to Israel that originated back from Abraham.

Those Promises exist in the Christian West today, with the multitude of Christian nations, not in the middle east with the Jews, nor even in the West among the Jews.

 

[Dan Perez]

Yes, intermarriage but which they kept the circumcision of their sons, and entire household. As for the priesthood they were to marry women of Levitical descent.

Passover/ unleavened bread......

Ez 6:21 And the children of Israel, which were come again out of captivity, and all such as had separated themselves unto them from the filthiness of the heathen of the land, to seek the LORD God of Israel, did eat,

Those which did according to their abominations...

Ez 9:1 Now when these things were done, the princes came to me, saying, The people of Israel, and the priests, and the Levites, have not separated themselves from the people of the lands, doing according to their abominations, even of the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Jebusites, the Ammonites, the Moabites, the Egyptians, and the Amorites.

Simply marrying a foreign woman, was not the crime (unless, a priest). It was keeping the faith, which cannot be done apart from circumcision. As Moses wife said

Ex 4:25 Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me.
Ex 4:26 So he let him go: then she said, A bloody husband thou art, because of the circumcision.

There are 3 verses that PROHIBIT Israel from inter-marriage , and here are 3 verse that say that >

1 Kings 11:2 and Gen 28:1 and Duet 7:3 .

dan p

 

[BABerean2]

That document is NOT TO BE TRUSTED.

Edward Irving was one of the first, along with John Nelson Darby, in 1830s Great Britain, that began the false Pre-trib Rapture theory. Prior to that date, the Christian Church had always held to a Post-tribulational coming of Christ Jesus to gather His Church.

Even per John Darby's later writings, he later separated from Edward Irving because some of the wild spirit manifestations going on in Irving's church.

FURTHERMORE... that post has NOTHING to do with the subject of THIS THREAD.

What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word.


Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary.


What brings all local churches together into one Body under the blood of Christ? The answer is found below.


New Covenant Whole Gospel:


Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him.

He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth.


Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD:

Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.


Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? What did Paul say about Genesis 12:3 in Galatians 3:8? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?


Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart.


Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36)


We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24.


1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.

1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.


Watch the YouTube videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.



The New Covenant: Bob George

 

[Davy]

What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word.

That's never going to happen in this present world time. Remember Lord Jesus' parable of the sower? The stoney ground and thorns and fowls are Old Testament symbols for Satan's host. So before the various denominations would ever come together to agree on Bible revelation instead of men's traditions, they'd first have to prepare their 'ground' for sowing seed, and get all the stones, thorns, and fowls out so it would produce.

This is one of the major Bible teachings that many totally miss, the fact that early in the history of God's people Israel, the crept in unawares, natural brute beasts made to be taken and destroyed, always exist among us to twist and destroy God's Word out of people's minds.

 

[BABerean2]

That's never going to happen in this present world time. Remember Lord Jesus' parable of the sower? The stoney ground and thorns and fowls are Old Testament symbols for Satan's host. So before the various denominations would ever come together to agree on Bible revelation instead of men's traditions, they'd first have to prepare their 'ground' for sowing seed, and get all the stones, thorns, and fowls out so it would produce.

This is one of the major Bible teachings that many totally miss, the fact that early in the history of God's people Israel, the crept in unawares, natural brute beasts made to be taken and destroyed, always exist among us to twist and destroy God's Word out of people's minds.

We are commanded to cast the seeds of the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. We are not responsible that most will reject it. Narrow is the path that leads to God, through His Son.

Pastor David Wilkerson was one of the first to do this in my lifetime. Sadly, Pastor Wilkerson was killed when a logging truck hit his vehicle in Texas.


2Co 3:6 who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.


Heb 12:22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels,
Heb 12:23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect,
Heb 12:24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.