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Bible-Creation-Evolution (2)

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I must be an idiot of extraordinary proportions.
I've been where he's at and while I upon researching it and reflecting upon it found his position to be as off-target as can be - in fact I have problems thinking of an analogy illustrating it's off-targetedness well enough. And even though I've been there and can even speak the lingo (at least in Norwegian) - amen hallelujah - I still cannot seem to communicate to people like AV what I've discovered.

Well, either I'm an idiot when it comes to communication or they are completely locked within a fanatical mindset.


It's Morton's demon.

The Talk.Origins Archive Post of the Month: February 2002
 
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It's not even the only creation parable. Look in Genesis 2 for a second one. AND: They conflict.
So a reading of the bible alone provides ample evidence that AV is wrong. His view isn't even consistent with the bible he claims to read literally. In fact, a literal reading would ensure the reader considered it a parable as there are two conflicting stories. Belief in an infallible bible then results in an understanding that the creation stories are creation parables.

Yea, exactly. I can totally understand the need to justify and feel secure in one's beliefs, BUT, I can't understand why some people think that the Bible must be read literally. Would reading the Bible as parable versus a literal reading really change anything, AV? If so, how and why?
 
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