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Hmm... I thought you had posted more than that. I better recount. - lol
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Hmm... I thought you had posted more than that. I better recount. - lol(it seems) About 14 false statements all rolled into one post 356 .... (not a record though)
Where to begin. This is one tangled mess of conflicting doctrine. A patchwork quilt of mismatching scriptural snippets that only make it sound biblical.And the only way to be IN CHRIST is to DIE TO THE LAW THROUGH THE BODY OF CHRIST!! The law brings wrath, but where there is no LAW there is no transgression, and Christ is the END OF THE LAW!! A person must first DIE WITH CHRIST to be married to another, and that is only by FAITH in the one who died for our sins! Our old man (body ruled by sin) had to die. A person is only made righteous and Holy in the Father’s eyes AFTER they have been reconciled IN THE BODY OF HIS FLESH THROUGH DEATH!!
Colossians 1:21-22
And you, who once were alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled *in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight
Yes, just like most false teachings and false gospels are - full of distracting deceptions and half-truths and things to confuse the hearers into thinking it might be okay just to listen to (it is not) .... just trying to get the blind to follow the blind - those who can see run away from the false teachings.This is one tangled mess of conflicting doctrine. A patchwork quilt of mismatching scriptural snippets that only make it sound biblical.
Dear Lady: There is exactly one segment of individual who is NOT "hurt" by the Lake of Fire. Who are they?
I've never heard of such a thing as a "no sin" doctrine.So to all those who embrace UR (Universal Reconciliation) and all their no sin doctrines, including the teaching that a person who rejects Christ to the end only dies in their “one sin of unbelief” PLEASE! Show me the scriptures! And I’ll show you the scriptures that prove that those who reject Christ are still under GOD’S WRATH and the condemnation of sin, and if they die without HIM they will surely DIE IN THEIR SINS!! Not just in the one sin of unbelief. A teaching that many have embraced in these last days. A teaching that contradicts the only place where there is no sin... IN CHRIST! There is no “sin free realm” outside of Christ or apart from Christ in ANY WAY! Our old man was never fit to polished, overhauled, or freed from sin. He was only fit to be crucified with Christ! Therefore, if a person rejects Jesus Christ, than they have never crossed over from DEATH to LIFE!
1 John 3:5
And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and IN HIM there is no sin.
What was He manifested to do if not take away our sins? Is there something hidden in this verse? NO! Jesus is salvation from sin! No Jesus, No salvation from sin!
So, we seem to agree that there is salvation after death. Just sayin'.They embrace this UR teaching because they have strayed from the simplicity that is IN CHRIST. Explain to me where this “sin free zone” is outside of Christ? Tell me how these people who reject Christ are translated into the Kingdom of His Son without dying with Christ and being washed from their sins in His blood? How do they enter the Holiest without going through a veil that was torn, HIS FLESH? How are all these people who reject Christ freed from sin without dying to the law? Everyone ever born in this world, apart from Christ, was born a sinner, and there is no way to be BORN AGAIN unless they first DIE IN THE BODY OF HIS FLESH THROUGH DEATH. If we accept that Jesus is the resurrection and the life, we must also accept that HE AS THE SACRIFICE!
I remember nothing in scripture to support the elect becoming the lake of fire, or carrying out any kind of 'hereafter' judgment for sin personally.The funny thing is, I was just quoting this verse to someone else. The one thing I will say though, is that God's elect go through God's judgement (the fire) here and now, and then the become that lake of fire, that try the wicked, at the second resurrection.
I have no idea what you are talking about "a segment of an individual"----Not one of the righteous saved will be touched by the 2nd death.
Right, atonement for ALL sin, not just a select group of individuals.Is it not Christ who is the ATONEMENT FOR ALL SIN, and that is why redemption through His blood is only IN CHRIST! But if we accept the teachings that remove things from IN CHRIST, than we have already SHIPWRECKED OUR FAITH!!
The redemptive act (our justification) was for everyone, not just a select few.JESUS CHRIST is our ONLY SALVATION FROM SIN, because HE IS REDEMPTION (the act of being saved from sin) And ONLY IN HM do we have redemption through His blood THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS. There is no “sin free zone” apart from our position IN CHRIST. Because only IN HIM has the OLD PASSED AWAY and ALL THINGS BECOME NEW!!
2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore, if anyone is IN CHRIST, he is a new creation; OLD THINGS have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
Galatians 6:15
For IN CHRIST JESUS neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but a NEW CREATION.*
... as common it appears, with false teachings, that is on purpose obscuring , it is 'hidden' in darkness... when it comes out in the light, everyone will (or may) get a good laugh or two. .... at least it will all and is all exposed as sinful for now.I have no idea what you are talking about
How do you square Damnationism with "UNCONDITIONAL LOVE AND MERCY"?If we defend IN CHRIST than we defend all that is IN HIM, if we stray from IN CHRIST than we SET ASIDE THE GRACE that has been poured out for us through HIS BODY AND BLOOD!! But we are not of those who take things from IN CHRIST and hand them to the flesh! ABSOLUTELY NOT!! We are the REDEEMED OF THE LORD, WASHED IN THE PRECIOUS BLOOD OF THE LAMB!! A PEOPLE OF GOD’S OWN POSSESSION, A HOLY NATION, A ROYAL PRIESTHOOD who still carry around with us that OLD TREE, and who still preach that simple old old love story to a lonely heart in need of RESCUE! That PRECIOUS STORY of an UNCONDITIONAL LOVE AND MERCY demonstrated by a KING WHO TOOK IT ALL AND GAVE IT ALL on a LONELY HILL CALLED CALVARY!!
Grace and Peace…
So, we seem to agree that there is salvation after death. Just sayin'.
What comes after the judgment?Heb_9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Sentence #1 is itself "baloney."FineLinen said:My dear lady: The "Greek baloney myths" are the foundation of the "real scriptures".
The Lake of Fire radiates with two primary ingredients theion and theioo. I will not tax your patience with the significance of either ingredient or the foundation for both. What I will do is ask you one simple thing>>>
What segment of Adam1 is NOT "hurt" by the 2nd Death AKA, the Lake?
What comes after the judgment?
Do you believe that God's wrath is pointless? That he would subject the vast majority (countless billions) of those created in his very image to eternal conscious torment with no hope of escape?
Oh wait... I just remembered. You are an Annihilationist. Let me rephrase that. (thanks)
Do you believe that God's wrath is pointless? That he would subject the vast majority (countless billions) of those created in his very image to complete destruction after torturing them horribly? (for no apparent reason) Why not just "exterminate" them mercifully? Why make sport of it?
There's a message for the Damnationists.What God does, He does out of love, not fear. He needs no eternal burning hell to keep the saved from sin...
- How can you confess Jesus as Lord without the Holy Spirit? (1 Corinthians 12:3)Everyone will acknowledge the justice of God---everyone---the sinner, too, will see the justice of his punishment.
Rom_14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
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