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Macrina

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Nicole,

Belly dance is not the first thing I've come upon in life which is often used in un-Christian ways. I appreciate your comments and concern.

As for me, I do it alone at home for exercise and can't imagine that I would ever perform (although if I were to get married, I might stage a little home performance).

In selecting my DVDs, I read numerous reviews of each one and eliminated any that mentioned any sort of spirituality component.

I think that some of this is a gray area. Clearly, I don't mean the new-agey-goddess sort of stuff; that's not gray at all. What I mean is associating with people who hold false beliefs. I say this is a gray area because as people who are called to be in the world but not of it, each of us must evaluate which situations are ones which might lead us astray and which situations are ones in which we might be a light in the darkness. I think it's entirely possible that one person could go to a belly dance gathering and stumble in their walk because of what they encounter there; I find it equally possible that a different person could go to the same event and be a strong witness for Christ to fellow dancers.

There are some situations that others have no problem with, but I will avoid because I know my weak points. There are other situations that the Lord has enabled me to forge into, perhaps even called me to do so, but I by no means would recommend it to everybody. I think the important thing is for us to be aware of the potential problems and discerning about what we encounter.

Thank you for your comments... Although I don't want people to give up belly dancing unilaterally, I do hope that the issues you raise will inspire increased discernment in those who are being exposed to new parts of the world.
 
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Hey Macrina, did you order another DVD already or not yet?

My friend got Mystic veil Dance by Veena and Neena I just seen part of it but from what I have seen, compared to the twins DVDs I have I like the "Mystic Dance" the best! They talk a lot of "mystic arms" and 'spiritual chakras' which all does not make a lot of sense to me...LOL As for program it is definitely a belly dance program, not "fitness" and it does teach a choereographed veil dance! I have worked on a veil dance before (to really do it you need some ceiling space without hanging your veil on your lamp...LOL) and it is a GREAT workout for arms, which for me is very important,since I often get pain in my upper back, cos of wrong posture and weak upper back muscules.

I am not into all that "mystic stuff" but i like the relaxed air of all their dvd's, which compliments well other DVD's I use, and allows me to concentrate better on the muscule work. So I think this one must be the best of the belly twins DVD I have seen so far!
 
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Oh, man, I am bellydancing like every day and I wish I could do it more often! ^_^

At first I used Amira's Bellydance 101 since it is the easiest.

Now I'm using Jenna's "Basics and Beyond" which is really great. She is an excellent teacher -- and with a 2.5-hour DVD, there's a lot to learn.

Those are the two that I've used the most. I also have:

Neon's "Instant Belly Dancer 1" (actually pretty good, going to do more of it this week)

Ayshe's "Bellydance for Core Fitness" -- I've spent a lot of time with her tutorial section, which is very detailed

I have ordered but have not yet received:

"Learn to Bellydance with Alexandra Vol. 1"
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Atea's "Magical Motion"

These last two I got because of some great reviews I found and my need for greater variety if I'm going to be doing this every day.

There are some clips from the Neena and Veena videos on YouTube -- enough to make me shrug and figure I'm not really interested in getting them -- they have bouncy up-and-down style that isn't the smooth precision I'd like to learn, and it looks like it's more show-and-copy than instruction. I did see some of the veil one, which did look like a nice basic introduction to the veil. But it sounds like they may get a little strange with the "mystical" stuff.

Well, when my new ones come, I'll have 6. So I can do a different one for every day of the week if I take one day off. :D They're all chosen because of great online reviews. But this is my limit for quite awhile... I figure it should take me a long time to master all of these. ;)
 
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Oh, and Deornie -- if you're still looking for something that helps with combinations, you might look into Ansuya's DVDs, which have gotten good reviews. If I didn't think I was already overboard, I'd get hers because she is the. best. dancer. ever. She has a "Learn Lavish Layers" DVD and two that teach combinations. They might get at what you're looking for.

So much good stuff!!!
 
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Hey thank you sooo much for advice and will be waiting for your reviews of your new DVDs! Will definitely check out Ansuya and others!

I am actually looking for good combinations, because i think it is very important to be able to actually use the moves I learn!

I usually mix and match my DVD's. Like today I started with the twins, you know all that 10 times to the left and 10 times to the right stuff :D, which is really relaxed and good warm up for the muscules, so by the time I put in Jillinas disc, i felt moves came easier, especially in my stiff back...lol

And since the 2 vols of Neon I have also only teach the moves and no combos all I have left is Jillina which also gets quite boring!! (I think I either lost or left my Rania discs at home which is not really big loss cos she irritates me out of my mind with her stiff arms).

So I feel I really need some new inspiration with my routine... I am like that I think I get bored too easily.

Hey Macrina what you wear when you dance? Do you wear your hips scarf? What your hips scarf looks like?
 
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I wear leggings and a sports bra when I work out/dance (hard to call it a workout when it's that much fun!). I also wear a hipscarf -- it's white and has a bunch of gold-tone coins on it. What do you wear? (Oh, and btw, if I were to go to a class, I would wear something that covered me up a whole lot more than what I wear at home where no one can see me! ha ha!)

I hope you find some good combinations DVDs. Ansuya has one that looks like it might work for beginners, so I'll have that one "on deck" for when I buy something else. I have an Amazon.com Visa card, where I get points towards free stuff... so I use it like a debit card, for everything, including expenses for which the church reimburses me... the rewards points add up!

I've been watching YouTube videos of various dancers -- My favorites are Ansuya and Rachel Brice. Very different from one another, but I love watching both of them.

Remind me which Neon videos you have? (I'm too lazy to look back at old posts and see where you put it, ha ha!) And are your Rania DVDs the "Fitness for Weight Loss" set? The Rania ones look like they might be good for cardio, although the videos I saw of her dancing were sort of "meh." And I've changed my mind about Neon -- I really like Instant Bellydancer 1 and at some point I might get the second one. I'm still not into her "night club" sort of style, but I like the way you can do just the review sections to get one long workout (minus the instruction part).

I'm actually really surprised that I'm picking up a good bit of this stuff and find myself itching to do combinations. I'm making a big point to practice the isolations, though, because I want to get the technique just right.

I'll let you know how my other DVDs are after they arrive and I've had a chance to use them.

Is it crazy that I'm absolutely loving this? To the point where if a day goes by that I can't fit in dance, I'm bummed about it? Ha!

Hey thank you sooo much for advice and will be waiting for your reviews of your new DVDs! Will definitely check out Ansuya and others!

I am actually looking for good combinations, because i think it is very important to be able to actually use the moves I learn!

I usually mix and match my DVD's. Like today I started with the twins, you know all that 10 times to the left and 10 times to the right stuff :D, which is really relaxed and good warm up for the muscules, so by the time I put in Jillinas disc, i felt moves came easier, especially in my stiff back...lol

And since the 2 vols of Neon I have also only teach the moves and no combos all I have left is Jillina which also gets quite boring!! (I think I either lost or left my Rania discs at home which is not really big loss cos she irritates me out of my mind with her stiff arms).

So I feel I really need some new inspiration with my routine... I am like that I think I get bored too easily.

Hey Macrina what you wear when you dance? Do you wear your hips scarf? What your hips scarf looks like?
 
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Oh, one thing you might like about Jenna's "Basics and Beyond" is that it goes over different types of traveling steps upon which you can layer your moves and form combinations. She has a very step-by-step style that I find I really like: She goes from isolations to compound moves to traveling steps to layering to combinations. It makes it really easy to progress from one to the other -- I was able to get the compound moves down fairly quickly after I learned her isolation section.
 
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For my workouts I wear light cotton pants(I cant stand leggins, cos they make me feel fat) and some cotton top, have several and I rotate them to be able to give them a rinse as often as possible...LOL

Also almost finished putting beads and coins on one of the tops- time to time I treat myself by dressing up in that top, favourite pants and a belt! Really makes me feel like a dancer...LOL I have 2 belts one I bought at Boots(UK) on sale and it is an indian thing I think, has bells on and is more solid than the other belt I have which is egyptian and has lots and lots of coins on, but the quality is not so good so I hope to eventually find time to solder the hoops shut, otherwise I keep on loosing precious coins!(Also my mom made me a very special dance skirt but it is too precious to use LOL)

Will try the youTube, but my internet connection is way too slow for that... have seen there Jenna's clips, and it looks like she does some amazing isolating!

Neon's DVD's I have are Instant Belly Dancer 1 and 2. And although she targets party dancers she is really good with explaining! And all that party stuff is just a selling point...lol I have seen her "Stellar body" where she dances with tray of candles.... this is quite amazing!

Rania I had somewhere "Choreography of Rania", which i never used and the other one... geez I really do not remember what it was called... but it certainly was not cardio! It was smth more relaxed and fitness-like... I cant do cardio...lol Once I tried the twins cardio and after 10 min I had to go and lie down cos I was feeling unwell...LOL But this is the great thing about belly dance that it is perfect muscule workout without any cardio stress! ;)

I have Belly Dance superstars DVD and have Ansuya and Rachel there.... Does Rachel Brice do some tribal style of Dancing? (and definitely dressing) LOL I like them both!

What do you mean by "compund moves"- all the instructors use different terminology...lol As for Combo's I would say you should definitely try that! Even if you would know 3 moves you already can do combos! Just need to know how to put them together nicely! I find it SO MUCH FUN!!!!
 
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Yeah, I can do simple combos (nothing with too much layering or footwork though) and it's so much fun to see the moves coming together in a dance.

What I mean by "compound moves" are things like circles, undulations, and figure 8s that are made up of smaller components like slides and arcs. So, for example, Jenna teaches the basic forward-back and up-down movements of the ribcage in isolations. She also teaches the basic moves of the hips. Then in the compound moves section she puts these together into circles -- you learn how to do a vertical chest circle. You also learn to do various kinds of hip circles. Then in the undulations section, she teaches you how to put those two compound moves together to make a full-body undulation. Then she teaches sections on layering and footwork and gets into full combinations.

Sometimes I'll just put on some music and try making up my own combos -- practicing the basics moves and stuff. I love it. You know, I can't stay still when I listen to Middle Eastern music!

Yeah, Rachel Brice is a gorgeous tribal dancer. Her movements are slow, fluid, and earthy. Her muscle control and artistic interpretation are what I admire most about her. She's just mesmerizing.

Ansuya impresses me because of her ability to layer multiple movements and to interpret fast-paced music. And what's neat is that even though her movements are quick and precise, they aren't jerky or stiff -- they're still smooth and graceful.
 
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I highly recommend Ansuya's DVDs above all others. I have seen many and feel that hers are the easiest to follow as well as the most extensive in the amount of material covered. Plus there's always a performance by her at the end of each one. If you ever get a chance to see her perform live, it's worth whatever price you have to pay to get in. Check out her website at ansuya.com for info about her performances/classes/dvds
 
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I highly recommend Ansuya's DVDs above all others. I have seen many and feel that hers are the easiest to follow as well as the most extensive in the amount of material covered. Plus there's always a performance by her at the end of each one. If you ever get a chance to see her perform live, it's worth whatever price you have to pay to get in. Check out her website at ansuya.com for info about her performances/classes/dvds
Hey thank you very much!! I never seen her DVDs and she is really nice to look at! Gonna have to research so thank you for the link!
 
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The belt is also useful for practicing upper-body isolations: If I hear it jingle, I know I'm not doing it right!

Plus, that little bit of extra weight is a reminder for me to maintain the proper posture.
Yeah, for that reason I put coins on my top! Also helps to see better the chest isolations! AND

it is fun! :clap:
 
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I cant really sew, but I can do embroidery, crochet knitting and some beading. Just dont have enough motivation to make a decent project...lol

At least put coins on that top- a very primitive design but makesa difference!:)
 
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Looks like Ansuya has quite a few DVDs! Would love to try the zills! But unfortunately her DVDs are out of my budget for now! I wonder why they are more expensive then other instructional DVDs...

I went to her website and saw how much they were! :eek:

I think Amazon might sometimes have them for cheaper, but probably nothing reasonable if that's what the official site charges.

I'm sure they're good, but still...
 
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I went to her website and saw how much they were! :eek:

I think Amazon might sometimes have them for cheaper, but probably nothing reasonable if that's what the official site charges.

I'm sure they're good, but still...
At Amazon they are 35 USD and up! Others are 20 and below.... Dont think Im buying any her DVD's soon...LOL Well maybe if I find some used one on Ebay or smth...
 
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