Being Homosexual is not a sin.

[DiscipleDave]

Being a Homosexual is not a sin, just as much as being a Heterosexual is not a sin.

Who one is attracted too, is not sinful.

Having a sexual relationship with someone that is not your spouse is a sin against God, no matter what sexuality you claim to be.

In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ
DiscipleDave
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[ScottBot]

Being a Homosexual is not a sin, just as much as being a Heterosexual is not a sin.

Who one is attracted too, is not sinful.

Having a sexual relationship with someone that is not your spouse is a sin against God, no matter what sexuality you claim to be.

In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ
DiscipleDave
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Agreed, so what happens when some Christian groups "marry" same sex couples?

 

[DiscipleDave]

Agreed, so what happens when some Christian groups "marry" same sex couples?

They are wrong, and will have to stand before God and have to answer for their actions.

In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ
DiscipleDave
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[davedjy]

They are wrong, and will have to stand before God and have to answer for their actions.

In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ
DiscipleDave
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Or perhaps God actually looks beyond gender, and sees two souls uniting. Perhaps God isn't shallow, and can actually see love and not lust in a union or relationship, and doesn't say "hey, these are 2 guys, let me send them to hell...".

 

[ScottBot]

Or perhaps God actually looks beyond gender, and sees two souls uniting. Perhaps God isn't shallow, and can actually see love and not lust in a union or relationship, and doesn't say "hey, these are 2 guys, let me send them to hell...".

BUt we are more than souls though......

 

[davedjy]

BUt we are more than souls though......

What do you mean?

 

[DiscipleDave]

Or perhaps God actually looks beyond gender, and sees two souls uniting. Perhaps God isn't shallow, and can actually see love and not lust in a union or relationship, and doesn't say "hey, these are 2 guys, let me send them to hell...".

i see, then according to your own thinking, a brother and sister, if and only if they Truly LOVE each other and not lust after each other, then it is OK, because God sees two souls uniting. altogether forsaking His instructions to us. lol, your kidding right ?

God in the old Testament had a man put to death because he disobeyed the law by gathering wood on the sabbath day. What did he harm at all ? Did he deserve to die, to be stoned to death, for merely gathering wood on the sabbath day, But guess what, it was a law to be followed.

In the instructions that we have from the New Testament, it clearly teaches us that a man is to have a wife and a woman is to have a husband, and many other such teaching in the Scriptures, We are to be doers of the Word not hearers only, DOERS, that is to say, we are to do what the Words instruct us to do:

Col:3:8: But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. 9: Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;

NOT A REQUEST, BUT WHAT WE MUST PUT OFF NOW.

God does look beyond gender, unless His Words specifically are gender related, then He does not look past gender. For example, He tells us how a husband is to treat his wife, and likewise how a wife is to treat her husband, in this situation, if the husband does not treat his wife as he is instructed to do, then God most assuredly see gender, for He has instructed the husband to treat his wife a certain way. So then on gender related subjects which the Words of God clearly indicate, they will in fact be looked upon by gender in the eyes of God.

In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ
DiscipleDave
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[davedjy]

i see, then according to your own thinking, a brother and sister, if and only if they Truly LOVE each other and not lust after each other, then it is OK, because God sees two souls uniting. altogether forsaking His instructions to us. lol, your kidding right ?

God in the old Testament had a man put to death because he disobeyed the law by gathering wood on the sabbath day. What did he harm at all ? Did he deserve to die, to be stoned to death, for merely gathering wood on the sabbath day, But guess what, it was a law to be followed.

In the instructions that we have from the New Testament, it clearly teaches us that a man is to have a wife and a woman is to have a husband, and many other such teaching in the Scriptures, We are to be doers of the Word not hearers only, DOERS, that is to say, we are to do what the Words instruct us to do:

Col:3:8: But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. 9: Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;

NOT A REQUEST, BUT WHAT WE MUST PUT OFF NOW.

God does look beyond gender, unless His Words specifically are gender related, then He does not look past gender. For example, He tells us how a husband is to treat his wife, and likewise how a wife is to treat her husband, in this situation, if the husband does not treat his wife as he is instructed to do, then God most assuredly see gender, for He has instructed the husband to treat his wife a certain way. So then on gender related subjects which the Words of God clearly indicate, they will in fact be looked upon by gender in the eyes of God.

In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ
DiscipleDave
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I never said that, I'm not talking about lust, just attraction, love and even a gay relationship in the confines of marriage (which God does not mention or forbid).

 

[BigChrisfilm]

Or perhaps God actually looks beyond gender, and sees two souls uniting. Perhaps God isn't shallow, and can actually see love and not lust in a union or relationship, and doesn't say "hey, these are 2 guys, let me send them to hell...".

Or, perhaps God meant what he said when he called it an abomination, I think that might be a good bet.

 

[davedjy]

Or, perhaps God meant what he said when he called it an abomination, I think that might be a good bet.

Well then, if you are currently wearing clothing of mixed fabrics, it should be a "good bet" it's a sin, too. LOL

It's a PURITY CODE VIOLATION -- WE DO NOT FOLLOW THOSE CEREMONIAL RULES

ABOMINATION = RITUAL IMPURITY

 

[Iosias]

Being a Homosexual is not a sin, just as much as being a Heterosexual is not a sin.

Who one is attracted too, is not sinful.

Having a sexual relationship with someone that is not your spouse is a sin against God, no matter what sexuality you claim to be.

You overlook the fact that the law of God is spiritual and covers not just deeds done but also thoughts thought and words spoken. Therefore to lust after a woman (if a man) and desire them is sinful even if you do not act upon it, likewise lusting after men (if you are a man) and finding them attractive is sinful.

 

[Time4AChange]

I never said that, I'm not talking about lust, just attraction, love and even a gay relationship in the confines of marriage (which God does not mention or forbid).

Oh brother Now you're trying to imply that God condones gay marriges? Why would He have to mention or forbid gay marriage when He said marriage is between a man and a woman? By Him saying that, it doesn't take much to figure out gay marriage is not of God...I know you guys have been thriving on twisted God's Word to justify your actions, but it's even worse than i realized

And the OP is completely misleading, Lord help us.

 

[davedjy]

Oh brother Now you're trying to imply that God condones gay marriges? Why would He have to mention or forbid gay marriage when He said marriage is between a man and a woman? By Him saying that, it doesn't take much to figure out gay marriage is not of God...I know you guys have been thriving on twisted God's Word to justify your actions, but it's even worse than i realized

And the OP is completely misleading, Lord help us.

I haven't even twisted ONE thing! I do believe God blesses gay marriages, you see some gender, and God sees the heart and the two spirits uniting.

 

[Gusoceros]

I haven't even twisted ONE thing! I do believe God blesses gay marriages, you see some gender, and God sees the heart and the two spirits uniting.

It is OK for 2 people of the same sex to love each other- and to have a common goal even- it is the homosexual act that gets them into trouble.

You are right, God does see it- as He sees all of our sins.

G

 

[davedjy]

It is OK for 2 people of the same sex to love each other- and to have a common goal even- it is the homosexual act that gets them into trouble.

You are right, God does see it- as He sees all of our sins.

G

No, the act is not even specifically mentioned!

There isn't even one mention of the act, and Leviticus is a purity code violation! Not to mention, the words that translate out to mean homosexual are not even mentioned like that in the original Hebrew and Greek language! Biased translations!

Here's a good church that has their act together:

http://www.opendoorcenter.com/myths_&_facts.htm

 

[Gusoceros]

No, the act is not even specifically mentioned!

There isn't even one mention of the act, and Leviticus is a purity code violation! Not to mention, the words that translate out to mean homosexual are not even mentioned like that in the original Hebrew and Greek language! Biased translations!

Here's a good church that has their act together:

http://www.opendoorcenter.com/myths_&_facts.htm

Except this isnt true. We have covered the verses already, so I dont suppose reposting the same stuff again is going to help any. But for the sake of content, I will add it.

"For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due."
—Romans 1:26-27 (NKJV)

"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God."
—1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NKJV)

"Knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous person, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and for sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, for fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and if there is any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine,"
—1 Timothy 1:9-10 (NKJV)

G

 

[davedjy]

Except this isnt true. We have covered the verses already, so I dont suppose reposting the same stuff again is going to help any. But for the sake of content, I will add it.

"For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due."
—Romans 1:26-27 (NKJV)

"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God."
—1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NKJV)

"Knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous person, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and for sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, for fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and if there is any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine,"
—1 Timothy 1:9-10 (NKJV)

G

Again, you are quoting biased translations of the original Hebrew and Greek language. Do you actually think this information is ground breaking and new to what I already know?

 

[Gusoceros]

Again, you are quoting biased translations of the original Hebrew and Greek language. Do you actually think this information is ground breaking and new to what I already know?

You have not shown these to mean something different. What does Tony Campolo have to say about these verses?

 

[BigChrisfilm]

Well then, if you are currently wearing clothing of mixed fabrics, it should be a "good bet" it's a sin, too. LOL

It's a PURITY CODE VIOLATION -- WE DO NOT FOLLOW THOSE CEREMONIAL RULES

ABOMINATION = RITUAL IMPURITY

Find me in the Bible where it says wearing clothes of mixed faberic is an abomination.

 

[BigChrisfilm]

I haven't even twisted ONE thing! I do believe God blesses gay marriages, you see some gender, and God sees the heart and the two spirits uniting.

What God sees is an abomination, and he does NOT bless abominations. Sorry.