"Be Intolerant"

[katautumn]

LOL! Holiday Trees! I always thought it was funny that athiests try to celebrate a Christian holiday without calling it Chrisitian. Just confirms my belief that every athiest is actually seeking God, as God intended all of His creation to do. They just don't know they are.

LOL How silly of me. And here I thought Christmas started off as a Pagan holiday that the early Christians stole in order to entice Pagans to convert to Christianity. I must have read some incorrect history books or something. "Here, Pagans, you can join the Catholic Church and still observe your beloved Yule!" I observe the Holidays because it's a secular holiday. It isn't because I'm "seeking God". But, if that's how you rationalize in your mind how anyone could deny your religion then, by all means, continue to revel in your delusion.

 

[Argent]

LOL How silly of me. And here I thought Christmas started off as a Pagan holiday that the early Christians stole in order to entice Pagans to convert to Christianity. I must have read some incorrect history books or something. "Here, Pagans, you can join the Catholic Church and still observe your beloved Yule!" I observe the Holidays because it's a secular holiday. It isn't because I'm "seeking God". But, if that's how you rationalize in your mind how anyone could deny your religion then, by all means, continue to revel in your delusion.

So have you given up worshiping the devil or have you just gone "occult" about it?

 

[AtheistPerson]

Be tolerant towards the beliefs and what people claim as natural.

 

[OutCasteChild]

LOL! Holiday Trees! I always thought it was funny that athiests try to celebrate a Christian holiday without calling it Chrisitian. Just confirms my belief that every athiest is actually seeking God, as God intended all of His creation to do. They just don't know they are.

Two things

1. Please go look up the origin of the word "holiday." Its use in relation with Christmas should be no more offensive to christians than the use of the term "Christmas" is to protestants.

2. Whatever you call it, the use of an evergreen tree or sometimes boughs is a holdover to older Germanic pagan solstice celebrations.

 

[rowena]

I'm glad I finally have the permission of the Dobson family to be intolerent of those things I find to be antiChristian. And surprisingly enough, they are amoung the first things on my list to be intolerent of!

The Dobson family gives me a complex.

 

[Athene]

I'm much too lazy to be intolerant of people, just think of how much time I'd have to waste building up hatred towards certain people, time that would be better spent doing other things, like playing FFVII (the best final fantasy game IMO)

And before somebody chimes up and says 'this type of intolerance is not about hate' go tell that to a homosexual, or a transexual, or a single mother, or a divorced person, or a divorced - remarried person, or a woman who has had an abortion.

 

[SallyNow]

I'm much too lazy to be intolerant of people, just think of how much time I'd have to waste building up hatred towards certain people, time that would be better spent doing other things, like playing FFVII (the best final fantasy game IMO)

And before somebody chimes up and says 'this type of intolerance is not about hate' go tell that to a homosexual, or a transexual, or a single mother, or a divorced person, or a divorced - remarried person, or a woman who has had an abortion.

I'd have to go with The Sims 2, personally.

 

[Silent Bob]

I agree with the be intolerant attitude. Especially towards intolerant people. The want to kick a gay guy out of his house? Guess what? I want them out too. They lynch gays? I ll be the guy on the tower gunning down their kids. I love it!

This kind of attitude makes society more and more like a Gunz deathmatch this will be so much fun!

And to all those butterfly-steppers: Ph34R M3h 5Pr4y!nG 5kI11z!!11!!11

 

[noobsaibot]

You're well within your rights to be intolerant of non-Christians, just as we non-Christians are well within our rights to be intolerant of *you.* "Holiday Trees" anyone?

You seem to have forgotten how fundamentalism works:

THEY don't have do be tolerant of YOU because YOU are WRONG and THEY are "RIGHT".

Here's some simple guidelines to help you remember.

1. When you are being "tolerant" of Homosexuals, Muslims, Liberals, etc (i.e. allowing them to co-exist with you and making no effort to curtail their civil rights) you are actually being "intolerant" of Fundamentalists and should be executed for being unPatriotic or something.

2. Fundamentalists will gloss over the sins of millions of other people (i.e. Liars, adulterers, covetors, even thieves and murderers) but in their mind there is only one unforgivable sin: Homosexuality. Pointing this discrepancy out will inevitably lead to charges that you are:

a) Gay
b) a liberal
c) not a "Real" Christian

(Note: they never deny the fact they are being two-faced, or if they do they only begrudgingly admit that of course liars, adulterers, covetors and the like are sinners but Homosexuality is "MUCH WORSE" because its a "lifestyle choice"...and shame on you for being intolerant of their intolerance...LIBERAL!)

3. No other sect of Christianity is valid but only the one any particular Fundamentalist in question belongs to. HOWEVER even the kookiest snake-handling, Toronto Blessing, Fish on Fridays sect is acceptable if: they vote Republican...and condemn "Sodomites"

That is all.

 

[outlaw]

Has anyone here read the book "Be Intolerant" by Dr. James Dobson's son?

Evidently, he presents excellent arguments why we Christians are to have an attitude of intolerance toward sin and the behavior of the ungodly.

As much as we are called to "hate the sin, but love the sinner", I'm inclined to agree that Christians must become more intolerant of the behavior of the ungodly in American society.

There is no such thing as an “excellent argument” for prejudice.

 

[reverend B]

let's assume for the time being that our Christian faith justifies intolerance.
how is intolerance justified constitutionally? if the idea is to legislate our intolerance and make it codified and universal, by what authority would we do that? are we not to pursue our happiness, as we have seen it? do people have certain unalienable rights? it is a very tough road imho to outlaw gay marriage, for example, or at least civil union. it is discrimination of the most obvious kind, and serves no purpose for the state as described by the constitution. there is a great book called "ain't nobody's business if i do" and it is a treatise against legislation regarding victimless crimes. it was sent to every member of congress, the president and vice-president and every governor in the country. this was back in the first bush or the clinton administration. a very good read.
now, does your faith call you to intolerance? you must make that determination for yourself. mine does not. in mine, Jesus has taught us to love our neighbors as ourselves while we love God with all our hearts, minds, souls and strength. nothing about judgment. nothing about doing this love thing "if".... no, there are no qualifiers. just love. God will handle the judgment. He is the only one that will not be inconsistent in their meting out of justice. we are to love until it kills us. there is no greater love than one should die for their brother, right? when you think you can't love someone, that they are too abhorent to be worthy of your love, that's the guy to love!!! as nicole nordeman says in one of her brilliant songs, we are to be fools for Christ. let the world laugh at us putting the last first and the first last. let us love as stephen did as the rocks pummelled his body and he begged the Lord to forgive his murderers. let love be its own message, its own parable, its own admonishment, its own fable.
or of course, you could be intolerant. that's another way to go i guess.

 

[FadingWhispers3]

Anyone who seeks out a right to intolerance should have no objections if he himself is not tolerated.

 

[Argent]

Anyone who seeks out a right to intolerance should have no objections if he himself is not tolerated.

This is a humanistic understanding, not a spiritual one.

 

[Waiting for the Verdict]

I agree that tolerance is a value of questionable utility. However, I think any movement that sees intolerance as a positive virtue has serious identity issues it needs to resolve. My problem is that the right seems to take great delight in promoting intolerance, while the left superficially promotes a kind of tolerance that is sometimes even worse than intolerance. I don't care if you are pro-gay or anti-gay, pro-abortion or anti-abortion. All I care about is how you treat other people. And most people get an F in that respect.

 

[sethad]

Has anyone here read the book "Be Intolerant" by Dr. James Dobson's son?

Evidently, he presents excellent arguments why we Christians are to have an attitude of intolerance toward sin and the behavior of the ungodly.

As much as we are called to "hate the sin, but love the sinner", I'm inclined to agree that Christians must become more intolerant of the behavior of the ungodly in American society.

I think I've run into a lot of Christians who must follow the advice of that book.

And dang they're idiots...and they definitely turn people away from their belief system and only serve to cause people to be more intolerant of Christians. Is that what you want?

Intolerance causes more intolerance. Same as racism causes more racism, and so on.

 

[Yusuf Evans]

Has anyone here read the book "Be Intolerant" by Dr. James Dobson's son?

Evidently, he presents excellent arguments why we Christians are to have an attitude of intolerance toward sin and the behavior of the ungodly.

As much as we are called to "hate the sin, but love the sinner", I'm inclined to agree that Christians must become more intolerant of the behavior of the ungodly in American society.

Actually, we are called to love one another, even our enemies. Bless those who persecute. Be grateful when you are persecuted, for you are more like Christ and the prophets when that happens. Treat others as you would want to be treated. Faith without works is dead.

Juse a few round about examples from the portion of the Bible we Christians base our faith upon.

 

[ottaia]

Anyone who seeks out a right to intolerance should have no objections if he himself is not tolerated.

That is almost Zen in it's simplicity! Oops! Not Christian! I can't tolerate that!

 

[sethad]

Whoever is trying to make this into yet another homosexuality debate...(Argent...etc)

Take that arguement somewhere else

 

[Brennin]

Unless Argent says as much you should keep that "feeling" to yourself.

 

[Brennin]

Whoever is trying to make this into yet another homosexuality debate...(Argent...etc)

DONT.

Take that arguement somewhere else

Argent started the thread, so I think he has some leeway.